I had a horrible MIL. She told me the Elders had told her she had the right to tell me how to dress, amomg other things (I was 18 years old). She had no respect for me at all. Once she walked into our room after we had gone to bed, we were visiting at her house, and turned on the light. We were having sex. The only thing I regret about the incident was that I was not on top! She never did that again!
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I gotta RANT for a minute( MIL blues)
by thecrushed init's only been a month or so sense i fully awoke to the fact that my whole family for 3 generations has been fully entrenched in a cult.
i went threw terrible drug addiction like withdraws, panic attacks, suicidal thoughts etc etc etc.
for about a week i could barely sleep and then another all i wanted to do is sleep.
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This could be important, take a minute...
by Glander ina quick lesson that is easy to remember and could save a life.
it was a memory refresher for me.. handsonlycpr.org.
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panhandlegirl
Just received my CPR card this weekend. During the training, I asked if this year we were only going to use the "hands only method" NO WAY, as medical workers, we have to be experts in all of it. It is important to know how to do CPR. You never know when you may need it.
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To Attend or Not Attend JW Relative Funeral - Experiences You've Had ?
by flipper ini was moved to put this thread out after talking to a board member here who was treated very disrespectfully from her jw family after her own husband died.
my question isn't trying to pigeonhole anybody or i'm not saying there's a right or wrong answer - the question is designed to just openly discuss the negatives and positives of going to a jw funeral or not, and the implications or ramifications for doing so or not.. i believe it's definitely a personal decision based on different circumstances for each individual.
for example : let's say a person is an inactive jw and they were sexually abused or treated in other inhumane ways by still active jw relatives .
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panhandlegirl
This is such an excellent subject to consider because it touches on one of the most emotional and traumatic events we face. As sammie points out, it is so awful when the majority of your family, on both sides, is in the organization. Your opportunites to share in anything are limited. You may or may not even know when a famliy member dies and you can also be assured that you will not be invited to part of the funeral that is not a public gathering that they cannot keep you from attending.
What I find cruel is the way Ex JWs are excluded from comfort and association after the funeral regardless of their relationship to the deceased. This is the most disgusting example of shunning and shows the depths of cruelty involved. In my family the majority of us are not witnesses and therefore it is the witnesses who would be excluding themselves not the other way around.
Nugget, i agree with you, JW'S are cruel. I cannot believe their lack of feeling towards their family members.
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To Attend or Not Attend JW Relative Funeral - Experiences You've Had ?
by flipper ini was moved to put this thread out after talking to a board member here who was treated very disrespectfully from her jw family after her own husband died.
my question isn't trying to pigeonhole anybody or i'm not saying there's a right or wrong answer - the question is designed to just openly discuss the negatives and positives of going to a jw funeral or not, and the implications or ramifications for doing so or not.. i believe it's definitely a personal decision based on different circumstances for each individual.
for example : let's say a person is an inactive jw and they were sexually abused or treated in other inhumane ways by still active jw relatives .
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When my mother's brother (both JWs) died, my younger brother and I (both df'd) attended the funeral out of respect for them both. We first attended the viewing at the funeral home. The place was packed with both jw and non jw family members and worldly friends. Before going in, I told my brother that we were going to behave like normal people would behave. We went in and mingled among all those there. When I approached my uncle's wife and daugher (my uncle's wife is also my sister (they were not related,long story). She and her daugher in law (non jw) acceped my condolences graciously but her daugher just bowed her head so she did not have to speak to me, I ignored her. As my brother and I mingled and spoke to those who would speak to us, the jw's (mostly my family members) went into another connecting room which was full of people. When my brother and I walked into that room, they went back into the first room. We played "trading rooms" for a couple of hours. My brother and I behaved as though nothing was going on. It was so funny that they were letting us control what was happening. When everyone finally left, my uncle's son (non jw) asked me "What's going on with you and my family?" I replied "They're just mad at me because I left the organization." He told me that he was glad he had never become a JW. After 20 years,he is now studying to become one! I find that if you just act normal, like nothing out of the ordinary is happening, they lose their equlibrium. They do not want outsiders or other non jw family members to see how they are behaving towards those of us who are df'd. They know non jws would think they were acting crazy and not like the Christians they claim to be. As others have posted, I go to these funerals out of respect for the family member who has died and because it is the right thing thing to do in my view of things. But I refuse to be treated as an outsider on these occasions. I just act normal and let them sweat as they try and keep others from seeing how badly they are behaving. I know I have many more funerals that I will have to attend because I am part of such a large JW family. I will just play it by ear. Having a non JW family member or friend along for support is very important. I want to add that after the funeral, my mother's other brother (JW) pulled me aside and told me "When we enter a room, you are supposed to back off." I replied "Uncle, I have respect for us because you are my uncle, but I do not back off from anyone." He was livid, He told me "My son, a non jw, is here and he would not understand what's going on." I did not reply. I figured that was his problem, not mine.
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I am VERY surprised that........
by Iamallcool ini am very surprised that a very pretty lady that is i/o psychology doctorate major, she would like to go out with me on date.
she knows that i do not have any college degree.
to be honest with you, i am pretty much intimidated by her intelligence.
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Have a good time and be yourself.
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YOUR DAILY JOURNAL
by compound complex indear friends,.
much of what we do on a daily basis is routine and of no particular, earth-shaking importance.
however, after reviewing letters of family going back to wwii, it is fascinating to read what dad was doing on board the aircraft carrier in the pacific on any old day, what mom was cooking on her ever-steaming range, how i was dealing with the roller coaster of emotion at bethel [mom saved all my letters], how nana wrote that she would not study with the witnesses [per my request] but 'here are some mittens i knitted for you when you canvass new york with your magazines.
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Sitting here half-asleep after a 13 hour work night reading these posts. I need to get to sleep because I have only 5 hours left to sleep before I have to return to work. I will get back to reading the posts on
Monday. I have miles to go and promises to keep. Can't remember who wrote those words right now but that is how I feel.
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Alteration in the German Watchtower about spousal physical abuse
by slimboyfat ini noticed that the german edition of the study watchtower for today didn't include the phrase about the husband "hitting" the sister.
instead it just says that he became ferociously angry, which need not imply physical abuse.
i wonder if the german translator altered it off his own back or was instructed, and how other language editions compare.
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Why would the Wt writers think spousal abuse is ok to mention to an American audience but not in other countries. Very strange.
Designs, this was my thought also. It betrays a negative concept of both American women and men. It encourages low self esteem in JW women and promotes the feeling that they themselves are to blame for
being beaten. The writers also do not see the need for men to be accounable or to take responsibility for their actions. This article needs to be seen by those outside of the organization as a example of the WTBTS
view of women in America. I think it does a disservice to women everywhere.
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Did U Ever "Stumble" Anyone? Were U Ever "Stumbled: By Another?
by minimus inthe reason many jws forgo things is because they are afraid of "stumbling" a brother or sister.
just in case---they make it a point to not do or say something that could cause a person to leave "the truth".. i knew of some witnesses that were always "stumbled" by this or that.. so silly..
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I was accused of stumbling someone's study, a lady I knew outside of the organizatio,n by wearing a two piece bathing suit at the swimming pool at a
convention. Most of the members of the congregation were staying at the same motel and I paraded around the pool in my two piece suit. I was 25 and
looked very good in my swin suit. On Tuesday morning after the convention, I received a visit from one of the sisters and she talked to me about the
incident. I ignored them.
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another take on Selma and her not liking being hit
by therevealer in12 selma recalls a lesson she learned from the witness who studied with her.
"on one particular day," says selma, "i didn't want to have a bible study.
the night before, steve had hit me as i had tried to prove a point, and i was feeling sad and sorry for myself.
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That comment from the sister is one of the dumbest comments I have ever heard. From what I recall, the sisters can be very cruel and stupid!
I am going to have to read that article.
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Is the WTS and the JW's going to collapse in 2014?
by braincleaned intwo years to go, and an embarrassing whole century will have gone by after 1914 -- the date of armageddon.
in no world is that a "short period of time".... .
let's put things in perspective, since the wts claims to be the channel god has choosen.
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NO, as previously stated, the diehards will most likely remain no matter what the GB says. I cannot imagine my family having the guts/brains to leave/question the GB. Makes me sad but I don't want to delude myself
into thinking it will make any difference. They are just too blind.