My thoughts are in line with Tammy's. No way is the number 144,000 a literal number as taught by the WBTS.
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Australian JW, Jan Kikkert, confesses to burning car & house for $$$
by jwfacts inthis story means a lot to me, as jan kikkert is the father of the elder that headed my judicial committee, luc kikkert.
yan was a regular pioneer that was sent to tasmania with his 4 boys to serve where the need was greater.
he started an affair with a girl 40 years younger than himself.
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he was disappointed in what I have chosen to do regarding the religion.
I'm sure I am joined by hundreds of others in saying we thank you for what you have done to help us with all the jwfacts you make us aware of.
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Australian JW, Jan Kikkert, confesses to burning car & house for $$$
by jwfacts inthis story means a lot to me, as jan kikkert is the father of the elder that headed my judicial committee, luc kikkert.
yan was a regular pioneer that was sent to tasmania with his 4 boys to serve where the need was greater.
he started an affair with a girl 40 years younger than himself.
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panhandlegirl
He comes across as an unscrupulous man. I wonder what he has up his sleeve with this confession. Having his exwife imprisoned?
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T-shirts and shorts dont imply a lack of dignity any more than suits and ties imply dignity
by passwordprotected inwe have to love the thinking of the governing body.. someone t-shirts and shorts imply that their wearer is undignified.
would you agree?
[blog article on this subject].
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panhandlegirl
I remember when my older super JW sister came home after she married a A super JW. She informed me that I needed to start wearing a girdle. I was 18 and weighed 101 lbs. I objected and told her I didn't need one. Her reply:
all the sisters wear a girdle. It looks better, and your skirts need to be below the knee. That was in 1962. Although I was a JW, I ignored her advice. And yes, I agree with the statement:
I don't see how being clean, presentable and appropriately dressed for your the setting can be undignified, but I do see how making yourself stick out like a sore thumb can.
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Fernando says we are "all" dysfunctional
by Phizzy inposter fernando makes the statement on another thread that we are all "fallen, imperfect, dysfunctional" .
everybody.. i get the feeling that this is not too far removed in its thinking from the wt statement that apostates are mentally diseased, now i am aware that fernando is perpetuating the late doctrine of original sin, and his words were about all mankind, not just us on jwn.. but do you believe you are cursed by what a fictitious couple did in a fabled garden around 6,000 years ago ?
does that make you imperfect, fallen and dysfunctional ?.
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We are all born of the Earth and the natural process is that our bodies return to it when we die.
I am beginning to think that is the case. I know God likes to recycle and I am afarid we may just be recycled.All I can say is: whatever happens, happens. I had no contol over my birth and I don't think I will have any control over what happens after I die. I will just be the best I can be now.
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Since the early WTCD doesn't have older publication
by thecrushed ini didn't ask why they don't because their own literature makes them out as horrible frauds!
my question is how do you get a hold of stuff like the "finished mystery" "the divine plan of the ages" and other pertinent false doctrine that has been swept under the rug and locked in the coffers at wt headquarters?
i feel so helpless because if i show my wife info on the net she will just write it off as apostate and altered like we have all been trained to think.
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I do know a lady, not JW, that has a lot of the info. In fact, I think she even has a copy of Plan of the Ages. She has told me she will copy it for me if I send one of those littlle plug ins or whatever you call them. I have bought one to send. If I can get the info I will do what I can to pass it on. I cannot believe the info she has obtained.
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Fernando says we are "all" dysfunctional
by Phizzy inposter fernando makes the statement on another thread that we are all "fallen, imperfect, dysfunctional" .
everybody.. i get the feeling that this is not too far removed in its thinking from the wt statement that apostates are mentally diseased, now i am aware that fernando is perpetuating the late doctrine of original sin, and his words were about all mankind, not just us on jwn.. but do you believe you are cursed by what a fictitious couple did in a fabled garden around 6,000 years ago ?
does that make you imperfect, fallen and dysfunctional ?.
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During a diversity class at the University I made the statement "We all know Jesus wasn't born on Dec 25." The professsor answered "Do we all know that?" I felt dumb. I'm not saying that about Fernando's statement, I'm saying I have made statements I always accepted as true not realizing it was a JW belief that was still in my brain and no one else believed it.
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Reading is NOT Overrated!
by White Dove inhow do you read?.
i find myself attracted to certain authors and book series.. which reminds me, i need to download the grapes of wrath.. i love steinbeck's writing of historical fiction.
looking into the history of frontier america is so interesting when written in story form.. i read from most genres.. what's your poison?.
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Sorry my font is so large.I'm not really screaming. I did it in Word and transfered it.
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Reading is NOT Overrated!
by White Dove inhow do you read?.
i find myself attracted to certain authors and book series.. which reminds me, i need to download the grapes of wrath.. i love steinbeck's writing of historical fiction.
looking into the history of frontier america is so interesting when written in story form.. i read from most genres.. what's your poison?.
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panhandlegirl
I love to read and read almost anything except romance and vampire books. I also favor historical fiction. My favorite authors/novels are James Michener, Exodus by Leon Uris, Taylor Caldwell, The Executioner’s Song by Norman Mailer, and Wilber Smith, who writes about Africa. I remember when I bought “The Executioner’s Song”; my husband thought it was a no good book. As I remember, and made sure he knew, Mailer won the Pulitzer Prize for the novel. He also told me I always chose crazy books when I came home with “Jaws” and we all know where that novel went. The movie cannot capture the terror the woman experiences during that shark attack but the reader can feel it. Gabriel Garcia Marquez, the Colombian novelist, is also one of my favorites. His book, Cr ó nica du una muerte anunciada/ Chronicle of an Announced Death, is such a gripping novel (imo) It is a true story about a murder/execution of a young man by two of his friends. The whole small town knows they are going to kill him but no one warns the young man. Marquez’s mother would not allow him the write the novel until the young man’s mother died to spare the mother. Anyway, I like knowing what other authors and novels others like so I can expand my reading. Ken Follett’s “The Pillars of the Earth” is waiting on the shelf and I know I’m probably the last one the readers I know to read it but just haven’t had the time. I just started “In Search of Christian Freedom.” I have an iPAD but for now, I prefer paper books.
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Reading is over-rated
by yadda yadda 2 inhave you ever seen people who just constantly read.
they read at every given opportunity, at the gym, on the bus and train, at the beach, all weekend, even while holidaying overseas they mostly just read.
you even see them going down the street holding a book while walking, like some kind of zombie.
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LRG I am a great Taylor Caldwell fan. Didn't she write "Captains and Kings?" I read her novel about the gun manufacters a long time ago.I think I will find it and read it again.