Posts by Pubsinger

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Geoffrey Jackson: "That would be presumptuous of us"...

by Calebs Airplane in

within the first few minutes, mr. stewart asked geoffrey jackson if the members of the governing body consider themselves to be god's spokesperson on earth.. his response: "that would be presumptuous of us" (implying that they don't consider themselves to be god's sole channel of communication).. to me, that was the worst lie of about 26 lies he's told during this hearing.

however, mr. stewart missed an opportunity to call out mr. jackson on this bold-faced lie.

he should have asked him to explain why the watchtower magazine teaches otherwise.

Pubsinger

Agreed. Totally shocking statement to make. It is indeed presumptuous. And presumptuous is exactly what these 7 men are. They are the 7 men who now claim that title for themselves, no longer even paying any lip service to the notion that the remnant of the 144000 are part of 'God's Spokesman'.

I left 16 years ago because I could no longer accept their claim to be God's exclusive channel and mouthpiece. If 7 men had been making that claim back then I may have left earlier.

He hasn't even got the balls to say in public what he claims in print.

Pathetic.

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Dr Applewhite and Conti's case

by Viva la Vida in

this is from conti's appeal veredict:.

monica applewhite, a clinical social worker and an expert on child sexual abuse, testified for defendants that watchtowers policy against disclosing private information .

very closely mirror[ed] the codes of ethics of the national association of social workers and the american counseling association.

Pubsinger

I don't think we should make too much about Applewhite being a Catholic. Unless anyone has info otherwise, showing that she's 'devout and practising', that could just mean she is a Catholic by family or upbringing.

it is ironic from a JW perspective but from her standpoint it may be of little significance.

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[Day 2 - 28/7]The Royal Commissions investigation of child sexual abuse within Jehovah’s Witnesses. + VIDEO

by C0ntr013r in

i decided to take one for the team and stay up to record day 2.. part 1 has been uploaded and part 2 and 3 will soon be available.. part 1: .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxspcullksa&list=plpq6kz-aghvqbadlzmqn26dvmpzddxlui&index=4.

playlist where the other parts will be added as i upload them, it also contains day 1 recorded by barbara:.

Pubsinger

Did anyone else spot Jackson tell a barefaced lie?

He said 'back in those days all appointments and deletions were made by the branch'. The examiner said 'well that's still the case today isn't it?' Jackson paused and said 'Yes. Yes it is'

He knows full well that COs make all appointments and removals. He is one!

WHAT A LYING BASTARD.

It's at 23.30

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Dino Ali Taking the Stand NOW

by AudeSapere in

jw
friends

dino ali, elder, taking the stand now in the australian hearings.. he's talking about interaction with disfellowshipped persons.. watch it live: .

http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

-aude..

Pubsinger

I'm not offering to do it all lol. But could probably record a day or two fully 😊

Barbara is already doing highlights.

And yes I think a no comments channel would mean JWs could be pointed there.

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Dino Ali Taking the Stand NOW

by AudeSapere in

jw
friends

dino ali, elder, taking the stand now in the australian hearings.. he's talking about interaction with disfellowshipped persons.. watch it live: .

http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

-aude..

Pubsinger

Ask Barbara. Her team are watching fully day to day.

Does anyone else think any of these suggestions would be helpful?

Day by day FULL uploads of proceedings
Edited highlights
A neutral YouTube channel to refer people to with comments disabled

Anyone making claims such as above could be asked to prove it with a video timeline reference.

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How many Atheist organizations or irreligious organizations have been accused of the covering up child abuse?

by jwleaks in

i don't know of any but would like some references if anyone does.

of course not all atheists or irreligious people need to belong to an organization.. studies on the demographics of atheism have concluded that self-identified atheists comprise anywhere from 2% to 8% of the world's population, whereas irreligious individuals represent a further 10% to 20%.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/demographics_of_atheism.

jw leaks .

Pubsinger

What like the BBC with Jimmy Saville and the Liberal Party with Cyril Smith?

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Time Magazine Article: Now’s the Time To End Tax Exemptions for Religious Institutions

by AndersonsInfo in

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friends

http://time.com/3939143/nows-the-time-to-end-tax-exemptions-for-religious-institutions/?xid=newsletter-brief.

june 28, 2015 .

nows the time to end tax exemptions for religious institutions.

Pubsinger

Personally I think each has to be judged on merit. If a denomination can demonstrate and quantify what it does that is clearly charitable and would be willing to be inspected, I think that a Charitable Status is fine.

If they cannot or will not, then remove the tax exemption.

Most churches I believe would pass.

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Sir David Eady to give judgement on the Watctower Appeal in the Otuo v Morley and Watch Tower case at the High Court tommorrow

by Adwoa Kromo in

sir david eady sitting as high court judge will hand down judgement tomorrow at 11:00am in the appeal of the decision from master leslie for refusing to strike out the claim as an abuse of process.

in his judgement in november 2014 he stated in his judgement delivered ex-tempore " i am bound to say that this case causes me a good deal of trouble".

from notes that i have from the hearing last week, i will be utterly surprised if the retired judge sir david eady takes a different view.

Pubsinger

Usual WT wriggling then.

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Sir David Eady to give judgement on the Watctower Appeal in the Otuo v Morley and Watch Tower case at the High Court tommorrow

by Adwoa Kromo in

sir david eady sitting as high court judge will hand down judgement tomorrow at 11:00am in the appeal of the decision from master leslie for refusing to strike out the claim as an abuse of process.

in his judgement in november 2014 he stated in his judgement delivered ex-tempore " i am bound to say that this case causes me a good deal of trouble".

from notes that i have from the hearing last week, i will be utterly surprised if the retired judge sir david eady takes a different view.

Pubsinger

Right got Ya. But the defamation claim has been 'upheld'?

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Sir David Eady to give judgement on the Watctower Appeal in the Otuo v Morley and Watch Tower case at the High Court tommorrow

by Adwoa Kromo in

sir david eady sitting as high court judge will hand down judgement tomorrow at 11:00am in the appeal of the decision from master leslie for refusing to strike out the claim as an abuse of process.

in his judgement in november 2014 he stated in his judgement delivered ex-tempore " i am bound to say that this case causes me a good deal of trouble".

from notes that i have from the hearing last week, i will be utterly surprised if the retired judge sir david eady takes a different view.

Pubsinger

So let me just get this straight. Are we saying that this chap sued the WT for £150k for defamation of character, won his case, but WT appealed but the appeal has been dismissed? In other words, they have lost, been found guilty and had to pay £150k?