Oh dear what is new. The Church in their daily affliction proclaims the encouragement of their Master being risen (and not left to death and corruption, and a new creature created and given the name Jesus, as the JWs teach). Every year it stirs hearts in new and old believers! HALLELUJAH!
JoenB75
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Jesus is Alive.
by Rattigan350 inaround easter time church people will say "jesus is alive" or "he is risen".. but what's the big deal?
jesus was alive in 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, etc, etc on down to 33 ce.. they are stating a fact that was true for 1987 years.
but church people don't think, they just join the rally cry.. the shutting down of the churches has been a great thing as no one learns anything there.
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The ransom makes no sense
by BourneIdentity inif mankind needed to be redeemed from sin and death, why didn't the redemption happen as soon as jesus successfully lived his entire life without sin and sacrificed his life?
if he was successful, the price was paid and we'd all be living forever.
it's all bullshit, or jesus fucked up and sinned, so it nullified his sacrifice.
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JoenB75
Well the authentic quotations (I assume) are interesting. There was always too much low level philosophy in JW teachings. Instead of accepting Scriptural testemonies and loving divine mysteries
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The ransom makes no sense
by BourneIdentity inif mankind needed to be redeemed from sin and death, why didn't the redemption happen as soon as jesus successfully lived his entire life without sin and sacrificed his life?
if he was successful, the price was paid and we'd all be living forever.
it's all bullshit, or jesus fucked up and sinned, so it nullified his sacrifice.
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JoenB75
Culfty, Christianity is not about pleasing some old angry atheist. It is about believing in and also proclaiing the revelation of Jesus. There is hope for our despicable race nevertheless regardless of what atheists and eco terrorists may say
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The ransom makes no sense
by BourneIdentity inif mankind needed to be redeemed from sin and death, why didn't the redemption happen as soon as jesus successfully lived his entire life without sin and sacrificed his life?
if he was successful, the price was paid and we'd all be living forever.
it's all bullshit, or jesus fucked up and sinned, so it nullified his sacrifice.
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JoenB75
The "dogma" of the biblical ransom is so simple. Jesus himself both priest and sacrifice paid the price that men could not. Being HOLY death could not hold him, so he was given authority to take back his life as well. JW teach the terrible dogma of Jesus never being raised but instead Jehovah created a new creature when the man Jesus died and called him Jesus. The Biblical Jesus is both man and the Holy Spirit (2 Corinthians 3:17). He is risen, God himself provided the eonian Passover Lamb
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The ransom makes no sense
by BourneIdentity inif mankind needed to be redeemed from sin and death, why didn't the redemption happen as soon as jesus successfully lived his entire life without sin and sacrificed his life?
if he was successful, the price was paid and we'd all be living forever.
it's all bullshit, or jesus fucked up and sinned, so it nullified his sacrifice.
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JoenB75
God can do with this fallen sick creation as he wishes. God owns us, we are nothing but clay in his hands, even clay in a most appaling condition π°. As David says in Psalm 139:7, where can I hide from your Spirit? He is the great I AM, we come and go. Thankfully the Lord on High loves us and did the greatest act of love - Jehovah crucified π² π₯°
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The ransom makes no sense
by BourneIdentity inif mankind needed to be redeemed from sin and death, why didn't the redemption happen as soon as jesus successfully lived his entire life without sin and sacrificed his life?
if he was successful, the price was paid and we'd all be living forever.
it's all bullshit, or jesus fucked up and sinned, so it nullified his sacrifice.
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JoenB75
Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple.
I dont think you ever understood that one as JW
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JoenB75
slimboyfat, thank you :). Yes looks ancient. and not called jw united anymore. I will take a look again before it disappears
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The ransom makes no sense
by BourneIdentity inif mankind needed to be redeemed from sin and death, why didn't the redemption happen as soon as jesus successfully lived his entire life without sin and sacrificed his life?
if he was successful, the price was paid and we'd all be living forever.
it's all bullshit, or jesus fucked up and sinned, so it nullified his sacrifice.
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JoenB75
Cufty you need to brush up on your punch lines. We are to hate evil just as God hates sin and other evils βΊοΈ. -
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How did Adam know what a sword was?
by phoenixrising inso if the bible is the inspired word of god and i don't believe it is by any stretch, how did adam when he was kicked out of the garden of eden know what a spinning sword was?
did adam invent swords?
more bible non sense garbage.
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JoenB75
I throw in the suggestion that the angels had merch that Moses would later identify as a sword. But since it is a symbolic account recorded by Moses, I dont think real time matters π. The sword symbolises the separation from God just like in Luke 16 and making necessary the ransom at-one-ment
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JoenB75
No it was as I remember a site with scholary papers by Furoli, Stafford and the like trying to defend JW doctrine. I doubt it was GB endorsed, so maybe they pulled the plug