Posts by Consciousguy

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My strongest reason not to take anything especially in the new testament serious is found in JW grey bible

by Consciousguy in

guys i need a rebuttal in this.

cos this is what i plan to tell the elders when they come to me which i find inevitable.

due to general concession and confirmation from jw bible on page 1736. all the available christian greek scriptures manuscript today doesn't contain yhwh.

Consciousguy

Half banana have you paid attention to ecclesiates 9.6 . The older version says when you are dead you no longer have anything to do under the sun "to times indefinite" the hebrew word used there means " forever"

Watchtower find this to be inconsistent with resurrection. In the grey bible the word "forever" or " to times indefinite " was dishonestly edited out without any explanation.

How many of this kind of silly editing has taken place in the last 2000 years if this is happening before our very eyes?

I dont see any credibility in the book

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My strongest reason not to take anything especially in the new testament serious is found in JW grey bible

by Consciousguy in

guys i need a rebuttal in this.

cos this is what i plan to tell the elders when they come to me which i find inevitable.

due to general concession and confirmation from jw bible on page 1736. all the available christian greek scriptures manuscript today doesn't contain yhwh.

Consciousguy

I really dont see any reason to think peter or paul said "dont say hello to your brother". It could have been added to the script. ANYTHING we read there in could have been added by the copier who systematically edited all important name out. The book simply has no credibility as long as their argument is valid

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My strongest reason not to take anything especially in the new testament serious is found in JW grey bible

by Consciousguy in

guys i need a rebuttal in this.

cos this is what i plan to tell the elders when they come to me which i find inevitable.

due to general concession and confirmation from jw bible on page 1736. all the available christian greek scriptures manuscript today doesn't contain yhwh.

Consciousguy

Guys I need a rebuttal in this. Cos this is what I plan to tell the elders when they come to me which I find inevitable. Due to general concession and confirmation from jw bible on page 1736. All the available christian greek scriptures manuscript today doesn't contain YHWH. The Borg argued that we don't have the originals manuscript and the available ones are written at least two centuries after the event, and that they have been manipulated. So all the subsequent manuscript are copied from this manipulated manuscript. Therefore they gave kinda valid arguments why they should insert the tetraga bla bla bla back into the new testament. I don't have any problem with their argument for reinserting the name. My argument is simple and straight forward if the org accepted that YHWH was indeed deleted from all the available manuscript by some crook.

1. How on earth can I know that whatever Paul ,John Matthew said was not inserted by this same crook who deleted God's OWN NAME from the only available manuscripts? 2. If God allowed his name to be deleted from the entire Christian greek scripture how can I know what else he can allow to be deleted from it especially when that name is so important?

Brothers i seek your comments. Also anyone who is good in rebuttal should please provide sensible and logical answer to these questions.

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First exchange in years about JW religion with my wife...

by NVR2L8 in

today my wife showed me the new medical directive and power of attorney form she got at the meeting.

surprisingly she asked if i wanted to fill mine!

i have been inactive for 6 years and i don't go close to any jw gatherings because i don't want friends who only care for me unless i share their beliefs.

Consciousguy

The power is really huge. I hope there is something we can do to destroy this thing. But they have that power because our loved ones will choose them over us any day any time. Sad

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Can awake jw find a way of getting to know each other in real life

by Consciousguy in

hi new to this forum but not so new to ttatt.

i was just wondering how nice it would be to know each other in real life.

i have got few friends in jw who are fully awake but still hanging because of family.

Consciousguy

I was brought up in this nonsense. But I would say early on I was really a believer, devout, serving as ms. But something went ''wrong'' maybe its just my nature, what doesn't seem right just doesn't seem right and I couldn't help it. I am not the type who just believes when there is no sufficient evidence or believe because you have been told so or you will die. I think that is what drove me out mentally. But I wouldn't have been able to do that without my friend's help who just trusted me enough to tell me how he really feels as against the status quo. We help each other out of this. I would never have known he has so much in his mind. .The more we talked the easier it became for us to see through the childish logic of the gb. At some point we almost deluded ourselves into thinking that no one in the kingdom hall really believes anything, but that's not so true especially with sisters, they are so much of a believer......

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Can awake jw find a way of getting to know each other in real life

by Consciousguy in

hi new to this forum but not so new to ttatt.

i was just wondering how nice it would be to know each other in real life.

i have got few friends in jw who are fully awake but still hanging because of family.

Consciousguy

Hi new to this forum but not so new to ttatt. I was just wondering how nice it would be to know each other in real life. I have got few friends in jw who are fully awake but still hanging because of family. But our real life association is really good. Real freedom of speech and expression. And always relaxed