Posts by peacefulpete

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Howard the Duck..... mature

by peacefulpete in

howard the duck (1986) condom scene [hd] lea thompson - youtube.

ok, i'm attempting to bring some levity to the topic of evolution.

when i was a boy in high school i gave my teachers hell when the topic of evolution was mentioned.

peacefulpete

Boy, did people hate the movie that much, or was the topic of penis evolution just too prick-ly?

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Voting thumbs up

by peacefulpete in

is anyone else having problem giving a thumbs up?

it has been happening for a long time.

i vote up , it appears, then disappears when i return to page.

peacefulpete

Is anyone else having problem giving a thumbs up? It has been happening for a long time. I vote up , it appears, then disappears when I return to page. I've done some multiple times.

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Yahweh the Angel

by peacefulpete in

a small thread that may be of interest to some.

in short, there are 3 occasions in the ot where yahweh is identified with the epithet "angel".

(mal ak).

ray,,,,I'm of the opinion that you are correct in that the introduction of an angel into some of the OT theophanic narratives did in an indirect way open some Jews to the idea of a second divine figure. As was said before, the idea of a 'second power' in heaven was percolating among Hellenized Judaism in late second Temple times.

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Howard the Duck..... mature

by peacefulpete in

howard the duck (1986) condom scene [hd] lea thompson - youtube.

ok, i'm attempting to bring some levity to the topic of evolution.

when i was a boy in high school i gave my teachers hell when the topic of evolution was mentioned.

peacefulpete

I noticed I made a technical error. Both birds with and without penises use internal fertilization. I should have defined things better. Internal fertilization occurs in amphibians with tails, caecilians, some frogs/toads, some fish, and all amniotes. External fertilization occurs in most frogs/toads and most fish. Interestingly internal fertilization was apparently true of all amphibians prior to frog (anuran) evolution. But I'm hoping the point I was trying to humorously make was penis or no penis.

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Yahweh the Angel

by peacefulpete in

a small thread that may be of interest to some.

in short, there are 3 occasions in the ot where yahweh is identified with the epithet "angel".

(mal ak).

peacefulpete

That is a related issue to be sure. As Yahweh became perceived as omnipotent and omniscient, the roles he was allowed to play changed. Like you said, it was unfitting to describe him as literally coming down and eating dinner, now a subsidiary deity had to fill that role. Angels, as we are familiar with the term became the 'messengers' and agents that actually interacted with people. In some contexts the "sons of El" came to be interpreted as angels of Yahweh. In other narratives the introduction of an angel has confused Jewish readers themselves as to who the speaker is. (https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5144884424474624/two-powers-heaven) The development of the "satan' resister figure began similarly.

Before this development it wasn't offensive to describe Yahweh as the Malak of redemption or of a covenant.

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Howard the Duck..... mature

by peacefulpete in

howard the duck (1986) condom scene [hd] lea thompson - youtube.

ok, i'm attempting to bring some levity to the topic of evolution.

when i was a boy in high school i gave my teachers hell when the topic of evolution was mentioned.

peacefulpete

HOWARD THE DUCK (1986) Condom Scene [HD] Lea Thompson - YouTube

OK, I'm attempting to bring some levity to the topic of evolution. When I was a boy in high school I gave my teachers hell when the topic of evolution was mentioned. I was pretty smart stuff. One of my favorite arguments was against the evolution of internal fertilization, aka, the penis. My brilliance had assumed that there was no way the shift from external to internal fertilization could be explained. There was a clear line between animals that rubbed cloacae and those who had penises. I can laugh about it now.

Anyway, the unique ways animals sexually reproduce is a huge topic, for now I'm focusing on the mallard duck. I'm watching them swim around as I type this. I had mistakenly thought all birds did the cloacal kiss as they call it. The transfer of sperm was a less efficient matter of proximity. However, some years back I learned the far more bizarre facts of life of the duck. Ducks, and for that matter about 3% of bird species, have penises. Do Birds Have Penises? | Bird Reproduction | Bird Spot

The mallard penis is a marvel of biological improbability. The males' penis grows in length in relation to the number of male rivals present. The more rivals, the longer it grows. These penises have been known to be as long as their body! The shape is the weirdest thing. It's a corkscrew. Why a corkscrew? Why are duck penises corkscrew-shaped and how do they mate? | BBC Science Focus Magazine

Ducks' bizarre genitalia is a result of a sexual arms race. Forced mating is common among ducks, so while males' long, flexible penises increase their chances of successfully fertilising a female, the females' anticlockwise vaginas give them a level of control. "Those complex structures prevent full eversion of the penis of unwanted males, so their sperm ends up closer to the cloacal entrance where the females can get rid of it more easily." That is, Brennan's research found that female ducks can prevent fertilisation from unwanted males.
However, if the female wants to mate with a certain male, she can relax her cloacal muscles to allow easier access.

She had better act quickly however as the male penis is lightning fast. Taking less than a third of a second to get full length and unload. Explosive eversion of a duck penis. - YouTube

Modern genetic study has shown that in fact all birds have the genes for penises.

All the genes responsible for growing a penis exist in birds, and they start life inside the egg with something called a genital tubercle. But whereas in mammals this develops into either a penis or a clitoris, for the majority of birds, the tubercle stops growing after just a few days. In birds, apoptosis of the genital tubercle is triggered by a gene called Bone morphogenetic protein 4, or Bmp4, a protein involved in bone, muscle, cartilage, and limb development. In the majority of birds, Bmp4 gets switched on and blocks the genital tubercle from developing into a penis so they either lack one altogether or it’s so small as to be rendered useless.

We have now concluded the common ancestor of dinosaurs, birds and mammals, in fact all amniotes, had something of a penis. Evolution of the Penis | The Scientist Magazine® (the-scientist.com).

Why has this 'reverse' evolution taken place? It seems whether the bird develops a penis is a matter of the timing of the activation of the Bmp4 protein which has adaptive value to the bird's tissue growth. IOW, a consequence of another otherwise valuable adaptation. As most birds have been able to 'get it on' without their penises sufficiently well to continue as species, we have what is called a tradeoff. Something gained effectively equaling something lost.

My 16 year old high school self is putting his hands to his face with embarrassment now.

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Better off PIMA than POMA or POMO.

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

the situation is many of us are pima and all putting on a front, sometimes saying something we don’t fully believe.

or at least are actually agnostic about but a hope that it’s true.. but it can be useful if someone is really going through a hard time or has something they are very worried about, to say things like well let’s hope there is not much longer of this old system.. this can be useful in an awkward situation where you just don’t know what to do or say.

it’s a little bit of hope that can help when there is nothing else.. my agnosticism just means i won’t look back over decades thinking i wasted my life.

peacefulpete

I have been checking for decades. Many times there has been an announcement that the missing link has been found or finally they have found a half monkey half human fossil, but it’s always been debunked as fake

Oh, how you remind me of myself in high school!

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Better off PIMA than POMA or POMO.

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

the situation is many of us are pima and all putting on a front, sometimes saying something we don’t fully believe.

or at least are actually agnostic about but a hope that it’s true.. but it can be useful if someone is really going through a hard time or has something they are very worried about, to say things like well let’s hope there is not much longer of this old system.. this can be useful in an awkward situation where you just don’t know what to do or say.

it’s a little bit of hope that can help when there is nothing else.. my agnosticism just means i won’t look back over decades thinking i wasted my life.

peacefulpete

If evolution could be proved then it should be very simple and easy to prove.

My TV is real but don't expect a simple easy explanation for how it works.

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Better off PIMA than POMA or POMO.

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

the situation is many of us are pima and all putting on a front, sometimes saying something we don’t fully believe.

or at least are actually agnostic about but a hope that it’s true.. but it can be useful if someone is really going through a hard time or has something they are very worried about, to say things like well let’s hope there is not much longer of this old system.. this can be useful in an awkward situation where you just don’t know what to do or say.

it’s a little bit of hope that can help when there is nothing else.. my agnosticism just means i won’t look back over decades thinking i wasted my life.

peacefulpete

Im the kind of person who if I’m told there is a red car in the garage then I won’t either believe or not believe it’s there until I see it.

Good for you. Now go check the garage.

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Better off PIMA than POMA or POMO.

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

the situation is many of us are pima and all putting on a front, sometimes saying something we don’t fully believe.

or at least are actually agnostic about but a hope that it’s true.. but it can be useful if someone is really going through a hard time or has something they are very worried about, to say things like well let’s hope there is not much longer of this old system.. this can be useful in an awkward situation where you just don’t know what to do or say.

it’s a little bit of hope that can help when there is nothing else.. my agnosticism just means i won’t look back over decades thinking i wasted my life.

peacefulpete

I know that murder is wrong because God says so. Being made in his image, I also know this intuitively. This makes sense to me. My worldview is logically consistent.

Reverse your wording order, ...You know murder is wrong intuitively and so accept that your God is right in saying murder is wrong.

Now what if your God says murder in his name is right? Or this God murders people?

Now you are not "logically consistent" to obey the God, are you?