Posts by peacefulpete

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“Lazarus, come out!”

by Fisherman in

many people here have expressed faith in evolution and in other theories—but in all honesty, do you have any hope whatsoever in your heart or in the back of your mind ?

truthfully..

“Lazarus, come out!”

by Fisherman in

many people here have expressed faith in evolution and in other theories—but in all honesty, do you have any hope whatsoever in your heart or in the back of your mind ?

truthfully..

peacefulpete

I’m not saying that it’s simply statistically improbable for me to exist in particular, or life in general for that matter. I’m saying it’s miraculous that matter, life, and consciousness should have arisen at all.

There is no conceptual difference. If you accept the improbable in the particulars, you have done the same for the whole. The whole is just a bunch of particulars.

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Chance or intelligent design?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

cofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.

i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.

The issue is again with our minds. We are products of a universe constructed and governed, in turn, by products of the universe. Physics only work in this environment. There is no reason to believe physics apply apart from the universe. We therefore may soon reach the point where our models and tools for understanding simply no longer apply. That includes our assumed logic of causation.

Conjuring a deity at this point is just a trick of the mind.

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BBC & Gary Lineker

by BoogerMan in

whether you like or loathe the guy, agree or disagree, surely he has a right to express his opinions freely on twitter?.

every bbc employee who appears on tv or speaks on the radio, should now be paranoid about any opinions they've put on their social media accounts, because if the bbc are prepared to censor/silence lineker, they'll go for anyone.. oops: looks like the bbc can dictate what their staff can & can't say in their social media accounts.. https://www.bbc.co.uk/editorialguidelines/guidance/individual-use-of-social-media.

pity they weren't as strict with their high profile paedophile, mr. savile..

peacefulpete

In the USA similar workplace rules exist for many in public employment. My wife and I signed similar contracts. I was disciplined for a conversation I had with a member of the public (turned out to be related to city council member) wherein I disagreed with the use of funds for a park no one wanted. Private employers can similarly limit personal expression. A local soda bottler has a workplace rule prohibiting the drinking of a competitor's product at work on your lunch break.

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“Lazarus, come out!”

by Fisherman in

many people here have expressed faith in evolution and in other theories—but in all honesty, do you have any hope whatsoever in your heart or in the back of your mind ?

truthfully..

peacefulpete

SBF...We may not have the full answer to self awareness (consciousness) but whatever it is must be true of 'lower' animals as well.

Invoking statistical possibilities as evidence of providence is a misuse of math. Every single moment in time and space is statistically impossible but the moment it happens is 100% likely. Statical analysis has its place in a localized closed systems (like flipping a coin, heads) but not in predicting every contingency of the universe; (what are the odds the copper formed in a supernova would accrete in the earth's crust, to be mined, to be eventually minted into a coin, to be in your pocket, to be flipped by you and get heads. The odds of predicting that would happen are beyond the scales of mathematic possibility and could mistakenly lead to the conclusion that some supernatural force willed the coin to be heads.

So..., we are left with concluding every single happenstance and contingency is predetermined by supernatural forces, or, that events naturally play out in a sequence beyond our ability to mathematically model. Most folks would not attribute supernatural influence in the countless mundane particulars of every moment but get all philosophical about themselves.

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Oscar's Butt Plugs

by peacefulpete in

i'm actually embarrassed to say i watched the everything everywhere all at once movie on a plane.

kung fu with butt plugs and dildoes with a storyline impossible to follow.

i can't believe michelle yeoh agreed to it.

peacefulpete

I'm actually embarrassed to say I watched the Everything Everywhere All at Once movie on a plane. Kung Fu with butt plugs and dildoes with a storyline impossible to follow. I can't believe Michelle Yeoh agreed to it. Now it's a top winner at the Oscars. I'm dumbfounded.

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“Lazarus, come out!”

by Fisherman in

many people here have expressed faith in evolution and in other theories—but in all honesty, do you have any hope whatsoever in your heart or in the back of your mind ?

truthfully..

peacefulpete

Semantic word games. I'm faithful to my wife, I'm faithful to my principles, I have faith that spring will come. I even have hope that humans will find their way through the divisive politics of the day. None of these involve supernaturalism or invisible deities. I'm quite capable of seeing beauty in life and people, and to value both.

What need have i for religion?

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1975 on the back burner

by Fisherman in

“1975” still marks 6000 years from the creation of adam in wt calendar.

according to “all scriptures inspired” book, there is a gap between the creation of adam and the creation of eve and her marriage to adam.

it was at that point in time when eve was created that marked the end of the 6th creative day and the beginning of god’s rest, the 7th day as recorded in genesis.

peacefulpete

Did you read the link I provided ?

I do believe it will break down the widely held positions regarding the nature of the Pentateuch.

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1975 on the back burner

by Fisherman in

“1975” still marks 6000 years from the creation of adam in wt calendar.

according to “all scriptures inspired” book, there is a gap between the creation of adam and the creation of eve and her marriage to adam.

it was at that point in time when eve was created that marked the end of the 6th creative day and the beginning of god’s rest, the 7th day as recorded in genesis.

peacefulpete

DisillusionedJw.........There is no single opinion among Jews anymore than among Christians. A useful website lays out some of the options:

Torah from Heaven: Current Approaches - TheTorah.com

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Chance or intelligent design?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

cofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.

i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.

peacefulpete

An ornithologist studying seagulls observes them for weeks, day after day, learning all about their behavior and nature, he watches them do seagull things, fly in patterns, feed on small fish and reproduce. Then one day the flock flies out over the ocean, he watches them get smaller as they move away, he uses his binoculars to watch them until they slip over the horizon beyond his ability to see. Would a reasonable ornithologist believe the seagulls are still seagulls doing seagull things? Or would a reasonable ornithologist assume that when they became invisible to him, their very nature changed and they became angels?