buddha of india .
he performed miracles and raised one man, el-azar-us, from the dead.
the sun is the "light of the world.
LeatherCrop....Believe it or not, I feel that your comment is closer to that of earliest Christians than the later attempts at euhemerism.
Sea Breeze, you have been here for years and have had this broken down for you a number of times. Why pretend you can defend this position?
buddha of india .
he performed miracles and raised one man, el-azar-us, from the dead.
the sun is the "light of the world.
Johnjo.....Respectfully, no there isn't. There are references to Christians, there is a reference Claudius' expulsion of rowdy "Jews" from Rome due to the instigation of "Chrestus". Many, many have argued this was a reference to Jesus.
A good argument against this is the reference in Acts to this expulsion of Jews under Claudius.
After this, Paul left Athens and went to Corinth. 2 There he met a Jew named Aquila, a native of Pontus, who had recently come from Italy with his wife Priscilla, because Claudius had ordered all Jews to leave Rome.
i remember knowing that jcs would ask very personal questions about sex activities.
this article addresses this: https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/15074595 .
It would seem obvious to pasters in most other churches that their role is to offer comfort and support. In the JWs and some others they take on the role of detectives and prosecutors.
Blues Bro...Your experience is the exception. I'm glad for you, I'm still haunted by things I was party to.
can't find any references, so you'll just have to trust me on this one.
i remember, probably at least two decades ago, a small news snippet about someone was going around brooklyn heights and setting fire to christmas wreaths on people's doors.
i've always personally suspected* that it was a bored/semi-insane bethelite.
Actually one of my favorite childhood memories was shopping one evening downtown in the nearest city just before Christmas in the early 70's. The old large colored lights and tinsel was pretty cool. My JW family was one of the lucky ones as my P.O. Dad basically gave us a Christmas, just a week later. We never decorated of course but it was a great compromise. We were rather poor but we always got one nicer gift and a bunch of other stuff like socks and granola bars. As a result, I never had the hatred of Christmas some posters are dealing with.
if you once were fully pimi and truly believed jw doctrine to the core like i once did, when you come to the reality that it is not the truth at all it can be extremely devastating.. i think only other ex jws could ever understand.
i wasted my entire life i thought the real life was yet to come to wasted the best years knocking on doors.
now i’m so angry.. i can understand why so many top themselves when they realise it was all lies..
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
the difference is now blatantly obvious, older ones who went against direction of the gb and planned for retirement have relatively more comfortable lives.. those who trusted and followed gb direction never got further education or training, pioneered or spent most of their lives knocking on doors for free, making just enough to get by in a part time job.. if you followed direction from the gb then you thought the end was just around the corner so no need to plan for retirement.. now these ones have indeed got old which they were given the impression they never would.
they are a burden on others.
the state has to pay for them in their old age.
He provides for them, just as he does the birds.
Here in the northwoods the species that overwinter have a 1 in 3 chance of dying from starvation and exposure.
http://articles.sfgate.com/2010-01-01/bay-area/17466332_1_east-bay-bay-area-first-time-camping.
biblical scholar's date for rapture: may 21, 2011theologyjanuary 01, 2010|by justin berton, chronicle staff writerformer civil engineer harold camping of oakland, who runs family radio, has studied the bible for almost 70 years.credit: lance iversen / the chronicleharold camping lets out a hearty chuckle when he considers the people who believe the world will end in 2012.. "that date has not one stitch of biblical authority," camping says from the oakland office where he runs family radio, an evangelical station that reaches listeners around the world.
"it's like a fairy tale.".
Apocalypse Later: Harold Camping vs the End of the World (2013) - Plot - IMDb
To anyone who followed this story, this will not be news. Harold altered his message after his May 21, 2021, date failed by insisting that the return of Christ was "spiritual/ invisible". He then predicted the literal return would be a few months later. When he was interviewed a year later, he had changed his tune. He then claimed to have been convinced of his dates but was wrong. He now longer made date predictions even going so far as to say it could be 100 years away. I reserve judgement regarding his sincerity. The documentary is well done and educational.
The documentary is presently free to view on Roku channel.
if you once were fully pimi and truly believed jw doctrine to the core like i once did, when you come to the reality that it is not the truth at all it can be extremely devastating.. i think only other ex jws could ever understand.
i wasted my entire life i thought the real life was yet to come to wasted the best years knocking on doors.
now i’m so angry.. i can understand why so many top themselves when they realise it was all lies..
it feels like the change in reporting of hours becomes a fundamentally bigger deal every day.
the weight and importance placed on quantity was enormous, and now it's just gone.
even tho most witnesses really didn't keep "accurate" records so to speak hehehe.... this could very well be a precursor to even bigger doctrinal changes, like 1914. damn, would would happen then?.
From a religious history standpoint, certain doctrines appear to be identifying and defining. But from the standpoint of truly invested members, loyalty trumps any changes in doctrine. We were, and millions still are, willing to sacrifice our families out of a misplaced sense of loyalty. I've said it before doctrine only matters so much. It differentiates one group from another, but the reason people embrace and remain JWs is the sense of belonging and security. It's generally only when a person begins to feel in some respect isolated from the group that rational discussions about doctrine and policy begin to matter.
So, IMO, if they can spin it as a positive and continue to reinforce the sense of group loyalty, most anything can be changed. I'm sure they could decide Yahweh is the correct name of God and it would be fine. lol
it might surprise some to find that john the baptizer's (jtb) death is described a number of ways in the traditions of the gospels, josephus and the mandeans (jewish gnostic sect that followed jtb).
first g.mark says john was reluctantly killed soon after he baptizes jesus by "herod".
this herod is described mark 6:.
yep
