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  "Accept Your Girly-ness...Know How to Shut Up"

  by cofty in

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  a faith-based motivational speaker by the name of justin lookadoo (yes really) has been upsetting pupils, parents and staff at a texas high school.. some pupils walked out of the lecture while others began tweeting with the hashtag #lookadouche.

  his website aimed at to promote "godly" dating includes the following gems of advice.. accept your girly-ness.

  youre a girl.

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  tornapart

  LOL! Love this thread, it's brilliant!

  Phizzy... you didn't mention the remote control.....

  
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  False Prophecy Part 3 With A Jehovah’s Witness Elder

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  jw: they are not.. kw: but if they were, would you want to know?.

  jw: they are not.. kw: im not saying they are.

  jw: no.. kw: really?

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  I'm a born in, my early/mid teen years were before '75 and yes, I remember all that stuff. Assembly talks, I remember the book 'Life Everlasting in the Freedom of the Sons of God. It was red. We studied it at the book study group.

  Everybody at the time believed that 6,000 years of man's existence was coming to an end and therefore Armageddon would not be long behind. Two of my parent's friends sold their houses and went into rented because 'the time was short'. Fortunately my parents didn't but it didn't stop them thinking that I wouldn't finish school. Well, I finished, my children finished and my grandchild will soon be starting....

  Any good KH library will have that book and many old bound volumes of WT and Awake. Many older brothers and sisters will have them going back pre '75. My elderly parents have volumes going back to the late 50s. See what you can find.
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  What was your "Aha!" moment?

  by Hortenzie in

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  2. beliefs

  for me it was when i learned that gb makes their decisions by 2/3 majority vote, not by direction of holy spirit..

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  The 'overlapping generation' at the DC 2010 was just another doubt added to my collection of doubts over the years but for me the 'Aha!' moment was as I was reading CoC... once I had finished it (after 3 days) that was it.. I had seen the light!
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  Baptismal regeneration

  by Laika in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've decided to start a thread on christian theology, wherein i will lay out what i believe scripture teaches about baptism... because i can.

  throughout the first 1500 years of christian history, it was universally understood that the christian is 'born again' at water baptism (and the majority of christians still hold to this) but then many christians started to argue that baptism was just a symbol of obedience, but i posit that nowhere in the bible will you find a verse that claims baptism is just a symbol, instead scriptural references to baptism always claim that it actually achieves something:.

  john 3:5 - born of water and spirit.

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  I think that baptism by water and baptism by spirit are two separate occurrences but are linked. As anonymouz said one can come before the other, not necessarily at the same time.

  The two baptisms of John the Baptist and Jesus were two differnt things. Those bapstised by John were as a symbol of repentance, those baptised in Jesus name were in recognition of him as the Messiah, the Son of God. The baptism of the spirit comes as a result of that recognition whether it comes before or after baptism.

  @Kate. If you find you are losing your faith but really would like to keep it, try reading a book called Disappointment with God by Philip Yancy. It's excellent for anyone stuggling with their faith and wondering if God is really there or really cares.
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  Well it is time for me to say GOODBYE!!!

  by mouthy in

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  2. beliefs

  it has been nice talking with you.but i seem to upset a few because of my faith.. so have a great christmas.... & be good, i wont be here to send you to your rooms .

  i have grown close to many of you.... if i have ever said anything to hurt you sorry!!!!.

  when i kick the bucket i am sure "mary" who ssometimes post will let you know.. mouthy grace gough.

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  So sorry to hear that Grace. Sending you lots of love and big hugs. May our Heavenly Father give you strength and comfort in this difficult time.
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  Well it is time for me to say GOODBYE!!!

  by mouthy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it has been nice talking with you.but i seem to upset a few because of my faith.. so have a great christmas.... & be good, i wont be here to send you to your rooms .

  i have grown close to many of you.... if i have ever said anything to hurt you sorry!!!!.

  when i kick the bucket i am sure "mary" who ssometimes post will let you know.. mouthy grace gough.

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  Dear Grace, I'm so sorry to hear of family troubles. How distressing for you My thoughts and all my prayers are with you....

  And just for you......

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMCwfPrmLe8
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  Sometimes you just want to scream

  by Separation of Powers in

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  2. experiences

  well, i have been posting here on and off for a while now.

  it is good to see the progress that so many have made.

  i have appreciated your experiences, your humour, your struggles, etc.. as i sit here today, i realize that i have made progress as well.

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  Last night at the KH I felt exactly the same SOP!
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  Waiting for the JWs to come to my door...

  by Hortenzie in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i read about the new tract distribution and thought to myself how should i react, when they come to my door.

  finally today, after finishing my morning coffee, i got an idea!

  i'll take the tract, look at it, look at them, and with a nice smile rip it up and hand it back to them with :"have a great day!

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  If anyone comes to my door and tries to give me a leaflet about something I'm not interested in, I just hand it back to them and tell them I'm not interested thankyou very much. No need to be unkind to the person delivering it. If that had happened to me a couple of years ago before I 'woke' up, I'd have felt hurt. Ripping up something in front of someone's face that they have just handed to you is not a very nice thing to do. You having wasted 15 years of your life has nothing to do with them.
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  MAJOR DOCTRINE CHANGE IN 1/15/2014 WT ON GENERATION TEACHING

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the generation scripture no longer is speaking about 'the end'.

  i'll quote it...... side note: tons of lies in this article, i'll point out at the end of the post.

  "yet, jesus words at matthew 24:34 give us confidence that at least some of "this generation will by no means pass away" before seeing the start of the great tribulation.".

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  EOM- "It's a fact that by 1927 to 1931 over 75% after Rutherfords takeover then his failed 1925 false prophecy woke up and left. "

  Can you back this statement up EOM? It would be great to be able to use.
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  Watchtower And Information Control

  by Bangalore in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  information control.. .

  http://web.archive.org/web/20000229154513/www.geocities.com/wallstreet/7209/mind.html.

  according to some experts in "exit counseling" there are four components of mind control.

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  tornapart

  Nice piece. Especially like the last two paragraphs.Thanks Bangalore.