G'day MUNKA:
A sidepoint: could you do some paragraphing and grammar checking before sending a post? It'd make it a lot easier to follow.
Now come on, even in NZ they teach that, don't they!
Ta.
they way im seeing it is that jw seem to teach only honesty which i dont see as being a bad thing at all so why are some of you on here using **** this and **** that or im going to do some fornication now blah blah blah , i dont mean to be offensive at all but some of you say you are christian????
or is it that you have been repressed for to long ?
help me as i feel stuck in the middle , dont know what to do
G'day MUNKA:
A sidepoint: could you do some paragraphing and grammar checking before sending a post? It'd make it a lot easier to follow.
Now come on, even in NZ they teach that, don't they!
Ta.
i found this newspaper article online today........jr brown makes a comment why there are no windows in kh's.
http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/080106/enm_4104779.shtml.
by phillip milano, the times-union.
"Our halls vary with the climate and security concerns of a region. For example in the Caribbean they are open-air . . . but in the United States we have given quite a bit of attention to security and vandalism, so we will build halls without windows. And air-conditioning is expensive [with more windows]."
So how does this fit with the Watch Tower's claim that it's a responsible carer of this planet?
Surely they are promoting an excessive use of the earth's resources??
Where is their "love of neighbor" in that?
How are they the "good citizens" that they have long boasted to be?
here is the report and video;.
http://www.wzzm13.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=76184.
The thing that shocked me was how calm the guy was
For now!
on the witnesses' official site is this piece about this year's district conventions:.
the 2007 follow the christ!
district conventions begin in the u.s. .
G'day Blondie:
I know what you mean! Seems to me that the "Society™" have a legacy of continually revealing something new each year; why, that was one of "the highlights" wasn't it? (Tongue in cheek)
That seemed to work so long as they possessed the writers/inventors who could concoct the stuff, but gradually they've been succeeded by 'company men' who have never had that experience; they have had a lifetime's experience of being receivers of whatever was churned out in the Watchtower and conventions. Now that they're in the 'hot seat' these men who lack the imagination that their forebears had are seemingly all at sea - their doctrinal changes seem to be decisions taken 'on the run' with little thought to how they 'fit' within the whole structure. e.g. this latest one about the selection of the 144,000 being a continuing process (so two classes are being gathered simultaeously??).
Cheers, Ozzie
on the witnesses' official site is this piece about this year's district conventions:.
the 2007 follow the christ!
district conventions begin in the u.s. .
On the Witnesses' official site is this piece about this year's District Conventions:
The 2007 “Follow the Christ!” District Conventions begin in the U.S.
Jehovah's Witnesses are hosting 287 conventions in 75 cities throughout the United States. The sessions promise something of vital interest to all who attend. Find the date and location of the "Follow the Christ!" convention nearest you.
So what was the "something of vital interest"? Anyone know who's been?
what do you think the first secret watchtower is going to be about?.
you know the jan 15th, 2008 apostate proof edition..
Prob'ly an article telling the R&F how much they should appreciate the "happifying™" experience of having the "loving provisoon™" of such "solid food™" all in one package.
No doubt some quotations from suitable appreciative dubs for the change.
"Food at the right time™" = 15th of the month Watchtower.
would there be a backlash from current jws if the blood transfusion ban was lifted and made completely a conscience matter?.
i suspect, that only those who had lost a close relative would be bothered.
the others would just be relieved that they didn't have to worry about this traumatic issue anymore and they would carry on as ususal.. so, what is it, except for fear of legal action, that is stopping the ban being lifted?
but a witness told me that hardly anyone dies as plasma etc is avaliable
A witness would! They're so deluded about the risks involved that everything is downplayed. They're so deluded (confused?) about what pasrt of blood is OK and what does what that they'll come out with any sort of nonsense.
He should be asked how many died in his state in the past few years through not having transfusions.
im only an interested one at the moment but as i surf around the net i keep seeing sites talking about false prophesies from the witnesses (dooms day etc) id like an unbiased opinion as to where i can get more info as the witnesses here in new zealand tell me they have never heard of them, thanks?
G'day Munka!
Welcome aboard, how's things over the pond?
I always refer people to the Freeminds site: http://www.freeminds.org/
A good place to start.
Cheers, Ozzie
i have just posted some graphs on australian publishers at http://jehovah.net.au/aust_statistics.html over the last 30 years.
there is a huge change in growth (or should i use the term shrinkage) over the last 10 years.
enjoy.. .
G'day mate! Keeping busy I see.
The stats make an interesting read - always better to see the facts visually, I reckon, like in graph form.
Even when I was 'in', I used to play around with the numbers but I was always uncomfortable with the interpretation of what the baptisms figure meant in terms of increase. We remember that people baptised have already been publishers for some time and the chilrden of witness families even longer, so the baptisms are not something to be added in a static environment, if you get what I mean, more of a rolling addition. I suppose over a long period, as you have done, it would be valid - certainly what we do see is that despite all that effort on the part of the WTS and the brouhaha about baptisms meaning growth, the "bottom line" is that there hasn't been growth.
Oh, also we have to factor in deaths and DF to that figure.
Anyway, hope things are well with you - must catch up some time again.
Cheers, Ozzie
hi everyone, i just joined this forum, am starting to go through the stories & info & hoping this will be a good support channel (i have heaps to discuss& vent lol).
i don't have the energy to go through my life story (yet!
), but basically i've left the organisation, which was a gradual yet sudden process.
G'day Kimberley,
Welcome aboard - enjoy your stay here.
Just look at the left and you'll see where I am!
There are many ex-dubs from Sydney who have posted on JWD - they come and go, but always part of 'the family'.