Posts by OUTLAW
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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please
by scared and lonely ini am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.
i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.
i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.
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Question for Cart-Watchers
by berrygerry inq. what is more important, the bible teach book or the bible itself?.
a. the bible, of course.. q. then why do you only display these books, and not the bible?.
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OUTLAW
Q. What is more important, The Bible Teach book or the Bible itself?
Watchtower Answer:
The Bible is Useless..
Without WBT$ Literature to interpret it for you..
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...........Nun Of Youz Iz SmartNuf To Red Da Bible..
............................All By Yer Selvez..
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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OUTLAW
So I would not know how to answer your question of 'ALL PEOPLE' outside of what I've already said:.....Acts5v29
Well I`d say that`s a pretty important question,so I`d like to pursue it just a little more..
If your God is going to slaughter good and decent people..
Other good and decent people who wouldn`t normally oppose your God/Beliefs/Faith..
Would have very good reason to be in opposition..
That said: the God I worship sees sincerity and heart - not beliefs, not church membership - also circumstances, and historical damage against us - and life is not about rules, but living. Whatever our foibles (and I have had plenty) I have found there is something better which makes them not really important - or rather, not an issue anymore. If God can do that in people, then everyone has the potential to live very happily without feeling deprived or restrained..... Acts5v29
Your taking the long way around the Barn.....LOL!!.....I know there`s an answer in there somewhere..
There are Good and Decent People who are not going to live their lives,according to the Bible,a Faith or Religion..
They are not in opposition you enjoying your faith/beliefs or your God..
Is your God going to give them a Pass?..
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We Know The WatchTower God Won`t.....Uh-Uh!.... Ain`t Gonna Happen!..
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................Kill Them All!! ..
..........Save The Eyeballs For....................... Fruity Drinks with Little Umbrellas!..
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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OUTLAW
The slaughter at Armageddon is for a specific purpose: to quell the attack against the Christ, not to slaughter those who do not believe in God. Unless you decide to engage in that fight, you can feel confident of surviving Armageddon......Acts5v29
Fair enough..
As a non believer there`s nothing for me to rise up against..
I`m more than happy to let people enjoy their Beliefs/Faith,as long as they aren`t threatening me with it..
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Would 'ALL PEOPLE" get the same Pass from your God?..
Such as Gay People..
I can think of more than a few who are good,decent people and contribute to society in a positive way..
Slaughtering them would be criminal..
So my next Question is..
As long as a good and decent person isn`t engaging in a War on God..
Would 'ALL PEOPLE" get the same Pass from your God?..
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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OUTLAW
When God intervenes, all non-believers will remain alive - God will not destroy at the hour of His demonstrating His benevolence to us.....Acts5v29
You`ve already explained that,so your repeating yourself at this point..
As for those who die at Armageddon, it is their unbreakable belligerent attitude which prompts them to fight against the Christ - many will be believers, but just want to be independent anyway.....Acts5v29
Your Dancing around My Question..
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When YOUR "Time Line" arrives for Armageddon..And..
Non Believers don`t accept the Evidence Presented,of Gods Existence..
"Is Your God Going to Slaughter Them?"
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...............That`s a "Yes or No" Question..
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What kind of person was Nathan H. Knorr?
by Hecce inwe have several examples in the forum showing that president knorr was not a loving and caring person; one that impressed me was the one about the elderly bethelite that was put out on the streets until his death due to a disagreement with knorr.
i bring to your attention an incident that happened in the country of honduras back in the 50s, it has to do with immoral conduct by a branch overseer and his subsequent disfellowshiping.
i am not critical of the end result of his conduct but rather the salacious and detailed report of this matter putting in the open the details for the whole world to see.
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OUTLAW
It seems to me that the reason why Brother Knorr refused to work with the group or with anyone on that day that you relate about in your post is because he saw that it was not proper for the brethren to give him so much special attention, and being the spiritual man that he was,
he walked away rather than risk being tempted to enjoy the feeling of being glorified.....Fisherman
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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OUTLAW
Outlaw the Militant Agnostic
If you mean the god of christian theism, the god of Jesus, and if by prove you mean prove beyond all reasonable doubt, then yes I can do that easily.
if you mean some vague deist god then who cares?.....cofty
You must really miss "Being Important"..
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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OUTLAW
But I do believe that God's intervention - and the evident proof of His existence and His benevolence at that time - will change a lot in people..
.Armageddon will come sometime after God's rescue, but it will be a rebellion against authority, and those in that particular rebellion alone will be slaughtered as a matter of necessity.....Acts5V29
"Evident Proof" of Gods Existence?..
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Right at this moment..
There are People who claim they can Prove or Disprove,the Existence of God..
Neither have any Proof..
What happens to the people who are not satisfied with the Evidence Presented that God Exists,when YOUR "Time Line" is met?..
What happens to the "Non Believers"?
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"You don't go to church in a Kingdom Hall"
by stephanie61092 in"you don't go to church in a kingdom hall" was stated during the public talk yesterday.
the speaker then elaborated that "people who go to church, go to fulfill a spiritual obligation.
coming to the kingdom hall is coming to learn.
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OUTLAW
We come here to engage and learn."
Try saying "ANYTHING" in a Kingdom Hall or WBT$ Setting....
Thats not WBT$ Scripted and WBT$ Approved..
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...............................................................................................................WTF??!!..
....I Have an Original Thought of My own..............That`s Not In The Watchtower Script!..
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What kind of person was Nathan H. Knorr?
by Hecce inwe have several examples in the forum showing that president knorr was not a loving and caring person; one that impressed me was the one about the elderly bethelite that was put out on the streets until his death due to a disagreement with knorr.
i bring to your attention an incident that happened in the country of honduras back in the 50s, it has to do with immoral conduct by a branch overseer and his subsequent disfellowshiping.
i am not critical of the end result of his conduct but rather the salacious and detailed report of this matter putting in the open the details for the whole world to see.
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OUTLAW
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PASSPORT WITH SIGNED "OATH OF ALLEGIANCE" OF
WATCHTOWER SOCIETY PRESIDENT NATHAN H. KNORR"
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