an "elite" group is one which has special privileges not granted to others.. and obscurantist elite, is a group which hides information by virtue of its own claim to be special and a sole source in dispensing necessary truths.. to wit:.
the gb's elitism shines through in articles such as this:.
“thus the bible is an organizational book and belongs to the christian congregation as an organization, not to individuals , regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the bible .
Data I would love to further this conversation but apparently the admin or a moderator is deleting threads and replies. I guess he (they) prefer "attaboys" and cannot handle my level of common sense and
reasoning ability.....Makemeanunbeliever
Nonsense..
Simon doesn`t allow threads used to make personal attacks..That thread is gone..
You have 3 posts on this thread to date, that have remained..
Your not being singled out,you`ve not been treated unfairly..
2 posts now..LOL!!..
i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
I made an observation about a ridiculous PM.....cofty
You claimed you had been threatened in PM..
Resorting to veiled threats by PM about people who opposed you in the past and who died is not an alternative to answering questions.....cofty
I didn't make anything up....cofty
Yes you did..
I objected to her ridiculous PM which basically said - "It doesn't go well for people who oppose me".
Nothing of the sort was said..
Why not use the word Apparently or Evidently?..
Those are good WBT$/JW "Weasel Words" when you lack any evidence and want to sway your readers..
Why are you trying to derail the thread with your childish nonsense - yet again?.....cofty
You opened the door by making the False Claim..That makes it Fair Game..
Adults are trying to have a conversation Outlaw.
I`ll bet you were good at shutting people up at the Kingdom Hall,when you "Used to be Important"..
Did you know that "WBT$/JW Importance" doesn`t translate into the Real World?..
i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
Yes I did. You must have read it too quickly....cofty
Lets see what you said..
I objected to her ridiculous PM which basically said - "It doesn't go well for people who oppose me".
Basically said??!!..
NEWS FLASH!!.....We can Read the PM for Ourselves..
They never said that at all..
That`s what a Strawman is.....Make shit up nobody said,then refute it..
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i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
You Made a Claim..
As for your PM it was a passive-aggressive threat about somebody who opposed you once before and who died. With your permission I will post it here in full......cofty
No Threat was Made..
I knew he did not have a case and did not want him to be embarrassed, but ultimately there was nothing I could do, to my regret. He died a few months later......Acts5V29
Not once in your post to me,did you Address the Alleged Threat..
You avoided the subject completely and constructed more Lame StrawMen..
As usual your contribution to the conversation has consisted of cartoons.....cofty
i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
You understand very well that I made no threat,...........Acts5V29
Lets have a look..
I knew he did not have a case and did not want him to be embarrassed, but ultimately there was nothing I could do, to my regret. He died a few months later......Acts5V29
Does that look like a threat?..Nope..
The Accusation of it "Being a Threat", is a StrawMan..
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i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
Good Morning OUTLAW
The watchtower mentions the scriptures, so there are bound to be similarities - but the differences are vast: Armageddon does appear in the inspired scriptures, so it is going to happen sometime - but the timeline of the watchtower is clearly wrong. Armageddon will happen sometime after God's intervention, but it is not synchonised to it......Acts5V29
You preach "There will be an Armageddon"..So does Watchtower..
.......................You Differ On Time Line..
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Well not really. worshipJehovah.org is not a religion, and everyone - good or bad, believing in the intervention or not - will be rescued alive at God's intervention. We do not impose rules or beliefs on anyone, infact neither I nor my colleagues are allowed to teach scripture and beliefs.
Priceless.......A few days ago..
A JW made a 2 hr trip into the mountains,to my door and "Preached" the EXACT same thing..
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When the intervention comes, then Christ will be in active authority - we will hear God's guidance from him, not the filtered version through religions - and people will be free to follow or not: either to stay independent, or to follow God's direct guidance. As for Armageddon, that only comes when some have decided to actively fight and defeat the Christ who will have come to solve the crisis that was killing us - remember the illustration of the vineyard?...
"This is the heir! Let's kill him, and the inheritance will resort to us"
- then, and then alone, will they be killed. But by that time, their belligerence will be beyond doubt and beyond reform.
Your still Peddling the WatchTower Message..
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i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
Good morning Outlaw,
Our ministry is different from the ones you mention, nothing to do with the watchtower no matter what coffy may impute - infact, a mere consequence of it shows that Armageddon cannot possibly be imminent, that the events of Revelation have not yet begun, and that the centuries-long preaching of imminent Armageddon has all been flawed.
Ours points to the climate crisis, and says there is a rescue of everyone alive - regardless of belief - and points to the 1st prophecy which warned we would reach this stage. Its proof requires not only a nemesis - such as the climate crisis will eventually be - but also a rescue from God, otherwise His prophecy that leaving Him would bring our demise would be hollow. The reasoning is very simple......Acts5v29
All you`ve done is..
Slap a Different "Time Line" on Armageddon..
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Non Believers of your Faith/God "STILL DIE"..
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i can't recall the word that describes a group that keeps to itself like the witnesses do.
i thought it was "insular" but i don't think that's the one i'm looking for after reading the definition.
i remember an elder using the word "clannish" and that has the proper definition but it reminds me of a group of elves.
What's a word that describes the way Witnesses behave as a group?....?......
.........WATCHTARDS..
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.....This WatchTard Is Being Punished..............We Could Have Looked The Other Way..
........BY HIS FELLOW WATCHTARDS.....................IF HE WAS JUST A PEDOPHILE..
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..."we are"--at this point i began shaking my head no--"stopping by to share a scripture.".
she had the wt and bible in her hand.. "please do not come to this house ever again.".
"ok we will put you on the do not call list.
I heard a knock on the door, and...
......Felt a Serious Pain Right Here..
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ok so a car pulls up to the house and 3 eldurrs from my dads congo come up.
they come in and have thee nerve to ask me to step out so they can speak to pops!!!!
this is the good part.....pops says...and i quote " whatever needs to be said..can be said in front of my son".
Good Story Pup!..
Then i ask.." What was so confidential about that conversation?".....I never got an answer from any of them.
There Was Something,They Didn`t Want You To See..
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..........GIVE UP THE CASH OLD MAN!!
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