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  Rev 17:9 - Thoughts?

  by leaving_quietly in

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  rev 17:9 describes something about the "woman", the harlot, babylon the great:.

  here is where the intelligence that has wisdom comes in: the seven heads mean seven mountains, where the woman sits on top.

  and there are seven kings: five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet arrived, but when he does arrive he must remain a short while.. i was dreaming about this verse last night, so i thought i'd look it up.

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  Londo111

  I feel this is a problem of reading through a modern lens. We often interpret words based on what it means to us today, versus what they meant to the audience they were intended for. This is case in point with the word that in some translations is translated as ‘earth’.
  When we hear the word ‘earth’, we immediately think of the planet or globe. But the primary meaning of the Greek word is land. This is how Young’s Literal Translation rendered it: “and the woman that thou didst see is the great city that is having reign over the kings of the land.'”
  At the very least, when reading the Old Testament or the New, when the word earth appears in our modern translations, we need to question how the ancient audience would have understood the word and in what context. 
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  Rev 17:9 - Thoughts?

  by leaving_quietly in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  rev 17:9 describes something about the "woman", the harlot, babylon the great:.

  here is where the intelligence that has wisdom comes in: the seven heads mean seven mountains, where the woman sits on top.

  and there are seven kings: five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet arrived, but when he does arrive he must remain a short while.. i was dreaming about this verse last night, so i thought i'd look it up.

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  Not a theory that I came up with, but a possibility that I became convinced of a number of years ago. It is called Preterism. 

  In regard when the point above, either of these possiblities seem likely:
  

  (1) Revelation was written before 70. 

  (2) Revelation was written as apocalyptic style literature as commentary on events that had already transpired. The inclusion of this book in the canon was much disputed.
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  Hi everyone, this is my first post.

  by John Aquila in

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  hey everyone, this is my first post.

  i was contacted by the witnesses in1965, baptized in that same year at age 15. i was appointed an elder in 1975 and served as an elder for 20 years..

  it hasnt been long since i learn ttatt and when i totally woke up.

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  Londo111

  Welcome to the forum!
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  Rev 17:9 - Thoughts?

  by leaving_quietly in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  rev 17:9 describes something about the "woman", the harlot, babylon the great:.

  here is where the intelligence that has wisdom comes in: the seven heads mean seven mountains, where the woman sits on top.

  and there are seven kings: five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet arrived, but when he does arrive he must remain a short while.. i was dreaming about this verse last night, so i thought i'd look it up.

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  Londo111

  Seven heads.

  Five have fallen:
  

  (1) Julius Caesar

  (2) Caesar Augustus

  (3) Caesar Tiberius

  (4) Caesar Caligula

  (5) Caesar Claudia

   

  One is:

  (6) Caesar Nero = 666

   

  One is yet to arrive, but remains only a short while: 

  (7) Caesar Galba

  Babylon the Great = ancient Jerusalem. The key to understanding Revelation!
  
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  Separated from a loveless Marriage

  by PLAYGROUND in

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  i don't know where to start.

  i got married a year and half ago.

  some months into the marriage things where discovered.

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  This person sociopathic and sounds as though they are practicing gaslighting. This is a wolf in sheep's clothing. If you continue to cast your pearls before swine, you will only invite injury to yourself.
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  JW's have lost the will to Vacuum

  by runForever in

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  despite 2005 being a very popular year for vacuums vacuuming is now very unpopular with 0 mentions- an all time low.. awake magazine:.

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  How many publishers does it take to run a vacuum?
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  Who Benefits from the Multi-Billion Dollar Real Estate Empire that is WT?

  by TTATTelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this thread is to formally address this subject.

  this is for forum members and especially for lurkers (current witnesses reading this in secret).

  please feel free to post any additional points.. there are a lot of changes happening in wt land.

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  I’ve heard speculation that the vendors that supply the Watchtower with goods and services are the primary beneficiaries. They would also have a vested interest in keeping the Watchtower going. Sometimes I wonder if there is some amount of truth to that.
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  When elders approach you.....how do you/did you respond?

  by Blackfalcon98 in

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  so, back when you were still in, or even now (for those still in), how do you respond when the elders ask to speak with you in the back room?

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  Londo111

  If possible:

  (1) Screen your calls. 

  (2) If you get certified mail, find out where it is from first, before accepting or declining.

  (3) Look through the window or peephole if the doorbell rings or there is a knock. 

  From my understanding, they have to establish contact (by talking to you on the phone, having you sign for certified mail, or in person) in order to take any action.
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  Governing Body Helpers ----- Who are they? Are they future GB in the making?

  by adjusted knowledge in

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  2. friends

  so after nearly 15 to 19 years of not attending a convention, i can't recall exactly, i went to one last year.

  the brother giving the talk was from bethel and was introduced as a helper of the governing body.

  it was a title i never heard of before.

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  I think I'd like to see Hamburger Helper promoted to the Governing Body. Maybe then they could actaully give food at the proper time. 
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  Good Netflix shows to watch

  by Simon in

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  in the long winter nights you need some good tv shows to watch while you wait for the eternity between seasons of game of thrones.. we've watched marco polo (pretty good) and have just started watching orange is the new black which is not at all what i imagined (didn't know it was funny!).

  house of cards is on the list too as we've heard good things about that.. anyone have any others that are worth seeing?.

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  Londo111

  I'm addicted to Arrow. Almost as dark as the Dark Knight.