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  New Instructions?

  by FedUpJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i may have missed it, but i just heard from a local elder that there are "new" instructions for how the two one day assembly's are to be conducted and handled......fifty-nine pages worth.

  he said they will now all be put on the same as the regional conventions.

  did i miss that letter/orders from "mother"?

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  Londo111

  No matter what I'm still not attending.
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  LDS leader James J. Hamula excommunicated

  by oppostate in

  1. social
  2. current

  lds leader james j. hamula excommunicated.

  http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/faith/lds-leader-james-j-hamula-excommunicated/article_bc1f3f66-b315-5f2d-bf6e-473eef082209.html.

  in a rare action taken by the senior leadership of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints, a disciplinary council was held for general authority seventy james j. hamula, and he has been excommunicated from the lds church..

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  Londo111

  So this guy seems to be the equivalent of a Branch overseer, or perhaps a District overseer? Not sure the exact JW equivalent.
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  Getting your WT files deleted (UK)

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the uk are tightening up their data protection laws to make it easier for individuals to get hold of the information organisations hold on them and to get it deleted.. i think paul grundy (jwfacts) went through this with wt once and found it very time consuming and difficult.. will wt now abide by the law and hand over or permanently delete the records it keeps when requested?it would mean every uk exjw could have their report card info, personal file with age, sex, baptism date, judicial information, appointment/deletion/disfellowshipping dates, letters of disassociation, letters of recommendation when you move, phone number and address permanently removed.

  anyone acting for the wt (elders) who retain this information, eg your phone number in their phone or the secretary keeping your historical monthly report details, will be in violation.

  failure to comply will incur a fine.. expect a letter to all boe's any time soon explaining why this does not apply to them.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40826062.

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  Londo111

  I wonder love to have my information extracted and destroyed, but I am in the US.

  For those not in the US, I wonder, does the US HQ comply with a request abroad to redact in their records? Or would they fall outside that country's privacy and information laws?

  Of course, due to theocratic warfare, I do not trust that Watchtower would truly destroy their records on a person. It would be impossible to prove.
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  Getting your WT files deleted (UK)

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the uk are tightening up their data protection laws to make it easier for individuals to get hold of the information organisations hold on them and to get it deleted.. i think paul grundy (jwfacts) went through this with wt once and found it very time consuming and difficult.. will wt now abide by the law and hand over or permanently delete the records it keeps when requested?it would mean every uk exjw could have their report card info, personal file with age, sex, baptism date, judicial information, appointment/deletion/disfellowshipping dates, letters of disassociation, letters of recommendation when you move, phone number and address permanently removed.

  anyone acting for the wt (elders) who retain this information, eg your phone number in their phone or the secretary keeping your historical monthly report details, will be in violation.

  failure to comply will incur a fine.. expect a letter to all boe's any time soon explaining why this does not apply to them.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40826062.

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  Londo111

  Unfortunately, this doesn't help us over here across the pond.
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  JWs Reaction to BBC Report

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for months i have been telling my friends - very devout jws - about the problem of child abuse in the organization but it wasn't until they saw the bbc report that they finally believed it.

  (i made mention of their reaction in an earlier post.).

  today they have emailed me to say the bbc report has hit them really hard.

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  Londo111

  Of course, few JWs actually want to go out in "field ministry" anyway.

  But this is good news.
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  What kind of toppings do you like on a Pizza?

  by Iamallcool in

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  2. friends

  i want something different on my next pizza!.

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  Londo111

  Today the Little Caesars chain is another bottom of the barrel quality (along with Pizza Hut, Dominoes, ect).

  But I remember when they first opened in my area when I was in my teens, they served this Sicilian style pizza with fresh tasting ingredients. I'd never had anything besides Pizza Hut and it was mindblowing.

  Of course, over the years, Little Caesars eschewed quality for quick and cheap.
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  Lorenz Reibling weighs in on Trump, Money and Real E$tate

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  lorenz reibling (known as brother reibling to some...) - owner of taurus investments* - spoke in munich, germany october 2016.. *taurus investments bought property from the wt - story here:.

  http://50.56.218.160/archive/category.php?category_id=5&id=23669.

  it seems like reibling has been spending most of his time in germany these past couple years.

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  Londo111

  I wondered if he helped with the deal to sell Watchtower HQ to Trump's son in law.
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  What kind of toppings do you like on a Pizza?

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i want something different on my next pizza!.

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  Londo111

  My favorites are all local...never a chain restaurant.

  In my area (Richmond, Virginia): Leonardo's, Maldini's, Mary Angela's, Nonna's.

  My favorite places which closed long ago were Pacino's and Roberto's. I still think back on them longingly.

  I don't care for Pizza Hut either...I can't remember the last time I've been there. It's probably been over 10 years, if not 15. I grew up eating that because that's what my parents got, but like the religion they raised me in, I didn't know anything else.

  My wife orders Papa John's and sometimes it's okay. But it would never be my preference. Of course, right now, I am dieting, so no pizza for me from anywhere unfortunately.

  I would love to go to Chicago one day and have a real Chicago-style pizza.
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  Using Illegal Means for Righteous Activism

  by John Davis in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wanted to get people's opinion on something.

  how do you feel when people use illegal means while performing their activism to shed light on the watchtower.

  there have been people who have illegally recorded conversations with elders and with branch offices or at meetings.

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  Londo111

  There is a continual tension in the human condition: Society needs laws--but sometimes a law is wrong. Legal doesn’t always mean good or right.

  Also, sometimes individuals and organizations can use the law to cloak themselves, and if they have the resources, they can become untouchable.

  At one time, slavery was the law. And those who helped slaves escape were breaking the law. Today we praise these people as heros.

  At one time, segregation was the law. And law enforcement acted against those who broke this law. Today, we hail the individuals who engaged in civil disobedience for the greater good.

  If it were not for whistleblowers, we would not know about immoral and unethical behavior of organizations, corporations, powerful individuals, or even entities within governments.

  If Watchtower was indeed the force of good in the world it claims to be, it would welcome transparency. It would have no problem having its hierarchy recorded, its documents leaked. It would open its computer files. It would welcome itself to be audited. It would itemize everything and make it public. After all, what would there to be to hide?

  As John 3:20 says, “For everyone who practices wicked things hates the light and avoids it, so that his deeds may not be exposed. “

  With all that said, that is not to say every act of breaking the law in order to work for the greater good is okay. The ends don’t always justify the means. But sometimes it might be the only way.

  Assassinating Watchtower officials or their hierarchy...that would definitely NOT be okay. Burning down Kingdom Halls or Watchtower buildings...that would NOT be okay.

  Protesting in the Kingdom Hall...it would be counterproductive to the cause, but it would not cross an ethical line.

  Whistleblowing, turning over documents, secret recordings, leaking information...I'm all for it.
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  Subliminal images - why and who are the individuals behind it?

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i remember about 5 years ago reading on another site about subliminal images in wt literature.

  i honestly thought it a load of bs until i checked out one glaringly obvious image of a creepy skull in clouds within the knowledge book.

  i was shocked and even showed my wife at the time who thought it was creepy.. so my question is why?

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  Londo111

  Let's say there are subliminal images that the Watchtower has purposely placed in the artwork.

  Who would be in charge of that? Would the Governing Body know? Do they give instructions that comes down to the art department? Are these instructions written? Why hasn't these instructions, verbal or written, leaked? Why hasn't anyone who carried out these instructions come forward?