I accidently came across this today.
2016 has come and gone, but not 1914.
Londo111
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1914 to be abandoned around 2016
by Alfred inthe other day i was doing some research about "1914" for a friend on my wt cd library (spanish) and i found it quite interesting that the number of times "1914" is mentioned in the watchtower magazine during the previous 3 decades has been dropping exponentially as follows.... 1980-1989: mentioned 854 times.
1990-1999: mentioned 492 times.
2000-2009: mentioned 222 times.
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Apparently, William Tyndale was an early J-Dub?
by My Name is of No Consequence inmy wife and son were watching the january broadcast and one of the segments was about william tyndale.
william tyndale was a bible translator in the early 16th century.
i always knew that the org held men like tyndale, john hus and john wycliffe in high regard.
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Londo111
Yeah, Tyndale had a beard, and would not have been allowed to carry a microphone. But that's okay: microphones hadn't been invented yet!
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Apparently, William Tyndale was an early J-Dub?
by My Name is of No Consequence inmy wife and son were watching the january broadcast and one of the segments was about william tyndale.
william tyndale was a bible translator in the early 16th century.
i always knew that the org held men like tyndale, john hus and john wycliffe in high regard.
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Londo111
It has always been portrayed that way.
Back when the teaching that the Faithful Slave was all the anointed on earth at a given time appointed from the year 33, it was taught there was always a few faithful anointed ones on earth serving spiritual food at the proper time. Tyndale seemed like one of these candidates according to this teaching.
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Why did C T Russell choose 606 BC?
by shepherdless ini recently commented on a thread in relation to the 607 bc - 1914 ad calculation, listing problems with the logic and mathematics.
afterwards, i wondered what made ct russell choose 606 bc in the first place.
here is my research so far.. i had read somewhere a suggestion that 606 bc was a number ct russell got from nathan balbour who in turn got it from william miller of the millerites.
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Londo111
John Aquila Brown did come up with the whole 2520 year concept. I believe his endpoint for the 2520 years was 1917.
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New here..help greatly appreciated
by Confusedandangry inhi everyone i don't even know where to begin.
i recently saw leah remini's series on scientology thanks to my husband (semi-active jw) and i felt like my eyes were being opened for the 1st time in my adult life.
i felt shaken almost sick to my stomach with each episode i watched.
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Londo111
According to the October 2011 public Watchtower, feeling angry about being lied to by one's religion is to be expected!
Have You Been Lied To?
FEW experiences hurt more than learning that someone you trust has lied to you. You might feel humiliated, angry, or even betrayed. Lies destroy friendships and marriages; they defraud people of countless millions of dollars.
Imagine, then, how you would feel if you learned that you had been lied to about God. If you are devout, the effect could be profound, as it was for these churchgoers:
● “I felt that the church had betrayed me.”—DEANNE.
● “I was angry. I felt that I had been tricked—that my hopes and goals turned out to be futile.”—LUIS.
You might hesitate even to consider the possibility that you have been lied to about God. What you know may have come from someone whom you trust and who would never intentionally hurt you—your parents, a priest, a pastor, or a close friend. You may have believed a certain teaching all your life. But would you not agree that even a widely held idea can be false? Former U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt recognized this fact, for he said: “Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth.”
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New here..help greatly appreciated
by Confusedandangry inhi everyone i don't even know where to begin.
i recently saw leah remini's series on scientology thanks to my husband (semi-active jw) and i felt like my eyes were being opened for the 1st time in my adult life.
i felt shaken almost sick to my stomach with each episode i watched.
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Londo111
Too bad. Maybe something will strike a chord and will awaken him.
Another show you might want to watch, which is fictional, is the Path. It is on Hulu. Just a warning some of the language might be objectionable for JWs.
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Why did C T Russell choose 606 BC?
by shepherdless ini recently commented on a thread in relation to the 607 bc - 1914 ad calculation, listing problems with the logic and mathematics.
afterwards, i wondered what made ct russell choose 606 bc in the first place.
here is my research so far.. i had read somewhere a suggestion that 606 bc was a number ct russell got from nathan balbour who in turn got it from william miller of the millerites.
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Londo111
Russell got his chronology lock, stock, and barrel from his mentor NH Barbour. Barbour is the one who came up with 1914. It might be Barbour was fixated on synchronizing it with the start of Christ's invisible presence starting in 1874. 1874 + 40 = 1914.
Dozens of Second Adventists after Miller used the 2520-year equation, making all dozens of predictions. It just so happens that one of those groups ending their equation in 1914 landed on the year of the long anticipated great European war later known as World War I.
Barbour & Russell got the year Babylon fell wrong (539 BC not 536 BC). They got the year Jerusalem was destroyed wrong (not 606 BC). They got the fact that there is no zero year wrong.
What confidence could anyone have in them after that?
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Why do you get upset about family shunning you?
by mr_doubtful ini understand people love their family but i also don't understand why you end up caring in the end.
i'm ready to leave and i 100% don't expecting my family to have any contact with me nor do i want them to contact me.
if they are going to chose a man made religion over me, that's their choice and i will sleep easy at night.
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Londo111
Not everyone is the same. In fact, most people actually love their family (and friends).
When it actually goes down, and they don't have family and friends who are not JWs because of years of doing what the organization directed as far as "associations", the sudden isolation can be quite devastating.
It has driven some to suicide.
The pain is real and quite normal.
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New here..help greatly appreciated
by Confusedandangry inhi everyone i don't even know where to begin.
i recently saw leah remini's series on scientology thanks to my husband (semi-active jw) and i felt like my eyes were being opened for the 1st time in my adult life.
i felt shaken almost sick to my stomach with each episode i watched.
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Londo111
Confusedandangry:
You are not alone. Many of us have lost decades of our life, and then our support system.
This is a deep rabbit whole. But congratulations on waking up…it might be painful in the short while, but inevitably you will be happier in long run.
It’s hard not to shout this stuff from the rooftops, but talking to indoctrinated friends and family is like diffusing a bomb strapped to their chest. If you pull the wrong wire, the bomb can never unexplode.
BTW…whose idea was it to watch Leah’s series? Yours or your husbands? If it was his, may it be he is awake and attempting to reach you?
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Trinity...cross...Does it matter?
by NikL ini've been thinking about this for a while.. did jesus diee on a cross?
does it really matter?
it doesn't change anything that i can see.. is god a trinity?
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Londo111
"If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing."--1 Corinthians 13:2
So according to this, you can have everything "correct" on doctrine, and have the "correct" faith, but without love, none of that matters.
Sometimes it seems those who strive the most about doctrine seem the least loving.