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  Anyone Know what happened to the Video that's brought down many JWs to Ex-JW land?

  by PokerPlayerPhil in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been looking for a video done by someone who shows the warning by jesus saying "if anyone comes to you and say's "the appointed time is near" you are to run from them!

  two people who left the watchtower said this has been one of the most powerful videos to get inside the heads of really smart elders and witnesses that don't come the regular way.. the gist of the video is the watchtower wrote a book called "the appointed time is near" and this goes against everything jesus christ warned people.

  the problem with the watchtower's followers is they need "omens", "portents", "signs" to keep their followers following along their path lead by that dried up old carrot (the end) or (the appointed time).

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  Londo111

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studies_in_the_Scriptures

  In Russell's Studies in the Scriptures series of books, The Time Is At Hand was the title of the second.
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  Anyone Know what happened to the Video that's brought down many JWs to Ex-JW land?

  by PokerPlayerPhil in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been looking for a video done by someone who shows the warning by jesus saying "if anyone comes to you and say's "the appointed time is near" you are to run from them!

  two people who left the watchtower said this has been one of the most powerful videos to get inside the heads of really smart elders and witnesses that don't come the regular way.. the gist of the video is the watchtower wrote a book called "the appointed time is near" and this goes against everything jesus christ warned people.

  the problem with the watchtower's followers is they need "omens", "portents", "signs" to keep their followers following along their path lead by that dried up old carrot (the end) or (the appointed time).

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  Londo111

  8 And he said, “See that you are not led astray. For many will come in my name, saying,‘I am he!’ and, ‘The time is at hand!’ Do not go after them.--Luke 21:8 ESV

  
  
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  607 article on JW website

  by Pubsinger in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2011736.

  i've not bothered to read anything on this for years as i addressed it personally years ago.

  but in this official article they appear to be focusing all their argument on the '70 years' part of the debate.

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  Londo111

  The Gentile Times equation is still in play. Last October, they piped a video into all the Kingdom Halls during the service meeting which was a demonstration on how to explain 607 BC + 2520 years = 1914 to a householder.

  For any JWs who happen to have found this thread:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-K8pyVfKcU&index=1&list=PLyNx0oM_bmgDJHQFzgm4L0rRuPpwTOVmz

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtFtd_wlv08&index=1&list=PLyNx0oM_bmgDh49TxoG_6jXALSqcB5COp
  
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  questions

  by DanielC in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i've been dating a jw girl for about 4 years and we've recently had a lot of issues with the fact that her family doesn't like that i'm not a jw.

  i've been looking into the religion and am interested in it.

  but is it wrong to join just so i don't lose her?

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  Londo111

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trlinb3Fp8E&list=PLyNx0oM_bmgAPkxpoL6pOB0CdY5anHbLC&index=5

  Understand what you are getting into first...
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  I want to take them down

  by cookiemaster in

  1. watchtower
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  hey guys!

  some of you might know about my latest clash with the elders.

  i see the pressure this cult is putting on my family.

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  Londo111

  Getting 'apostates' to take "coordinated action" is like herding cats.

  The Internet has really help slow growth and facillitated the exits of many already. Growth will continue to slowly decline.

  Over the long term, the Watchtower will crumble entirely. But it will not happen overnight.
  
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  "Jehovah's people as a whole can never be corrupted..."

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zgds4z-h2i.

  transcript below (with key points of interest bolded):.

  please open your bibles to phil.

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  Londo111

  This sounds like the Catholic Papal Infallibility doctrine…
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  What bad habits have you picked up since leaving the Borg.

  by James Mixon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went back to smoking and gambling but the good habits out weigh.

  the bad ones, like lying to people.

  is't fraud against the law, the practice.

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  I'm pretty much the same person I always was deep down. I haven't gotten any worse for leaving, and perhaps a bit better in accepting people, being open-minded. I'm by no means perfect, of course.

  I tried a drink with vodka. It was pretty good. I stopped at one drink. I likely won't make it a habit as I am dieting. Nothing much changed. I'm now thinking that an occasional drink in moderation might actaully be benefitial.
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  Why I think the Governing Body are the world's ultimate 'predators'

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in a previous posting i made the statement that the governing body were the world's ultimate predators.

  i will now give some reasons why this may be so.. for the purpose of this post i will provide the following definitions: .

  - predator - a human who lives by predation.

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  Londo111

  Yes, I agree with parasites, rather than predators. It doesn’t necessarily imply intention. I’m sure in nature, parasites don’t conceive of themselves as such. But the effects are the same.
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  Reports of lower memorial attendance

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have heard a lot of reports from kingdom halls in the area that there was less than last year, for both time slots.. we had the first time slot and we were down 50+/- compared to last year.

  last year we had the lobby full of people standing and this year we had empty seats and no one standing.

  we ran out of parking last year and this year we made it.. like i said i am hearing quite a few reports of this from halls in our area.however, somehow the number seem to inch up every year.

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  Londo111

  BTW...this year I noticed I did not get a Memorial tract in my door. I don't know if they didn't cover my street or if the people working my street knew me and figured I didn't need it.
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  Reports of lower memorial attendance

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have heard a lot of reports from kingdom halls in the area that there was less than last year, for both time slots.. we had the first time slot and we were down 50+/- compared to last year.

  last year we had the lobby full of people standing and this year we had empty seats and no one standing.

  we ran out of parking last year and this year we made it.. like i said i am hearing quite a few reports of this from halls in our area.however, somehow the number seem to inch up every year.

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  Londo111

  Friday night might not be the most popular night for non-JWs or lasped JWs to attend.