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  How far do we get away from 1914

  by PimoElder in

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  2. beliefs

  how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

  they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

  with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

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  The old doctrines seem to have less meaning. The 1914 doctrine combined with the "generation" Jesus spoke of has been replaced with JW Broadcasting stating "We are living in the final part of the Last Days. Undoubtedly, the final part of the final part of the Last Days, shortly before the final day of the Last Days."
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  My story

  by PimoElder in

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  2. experiences

  hi everyone i’m a pimo elder ex bethelite and pioneer who has been having doubts for many years.

  as of late i’ve come to have even more doubts mainly due to the gb pushing the vaccines and acting like salesman for big pharma companies .

  i will never take these vaccines even if it meant i couldn’t go to the hall as was previously said but the gb have done a big u turn on this now.

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  PIMO Elder:

  Welcome! It is nice to have another join the conversation on this website. May you be happy and well.

  the thing is I do quite like all the good things about the Borg and I like the meetings lots of good people there

  One question and one comment -

  What are the good things about the Borg?

  There are lots of good people at the meetings as I have found there are good people everywhere. JWs often misquote Simon Peter's words at John 6:68 from "to whom shall we go" to "where shall we go". You can go anywhere and be surrounded by good people without having to be a practicing Jehovah's Witness.
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  What are Jehovah's Witnesses' stance on home ownership?

  by timothytha in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what do people usually think of when they buy a house?

  "i will probably live here for a long time" (you're invested with your time), "i will save money by building equity over time".

  (you've invested in yourself financially for the long run) of course, i wouldn't be able to list the numerous reasons why people want to buy a house.

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  Seems no matter what you do it is never the right thing unless directly benefits the watchtower corporation.

  This is because Jehovah's Witnesses pride themselves in fault finding. It is a way they attempt to elevate themselves. It is a disgusting game of grasping at straws with heavy tones of holier than thou.

  Witnesses are constantly shooting themselves in the foot in this game. They have to over think every decision with the bottom line being "Will a fellow Witness find fault" rather than ask themselves "What does Jehovah think," which ultimately is just asking "Is there anything truly wrong with this?" Buy or rent a home may be an example, but the sadder example is when you have older Witnesses who did nothing to prepare for retirement or can't retire because they were too worried what others would think.
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  What do you know about Tartarus?

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  sometimes a word can change everything and this is the case here with a word that appears only once in the bible but reveals so much about the powers of darkness, the influence of greek literature on the first apostles and finally and more relative to 1the intellectual dishonesty of the watchtower when it comes to presenting information from extra biblical sources.so if you like stories about the fallen angels and hollow earth stay presented from an exjw perspective watch this video.

  https://youtu.be/zuv6zsuntci.

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  Although the kingdom of Hades was the place of the dead, Tartarus was where ferocious monsters and horrible criminals were banished, or where the gods imprisoned their rivals after a war. The three judges of the Underworld, Rhadamanthus, Aeacus and Minos, decided who would go to the realm of Hades and who would be banished to Tartarus.

  Source: https://www.greekmythology.com/Other_Gods/Tartarus/tartarus.html

  Like Hades, Tartarus is further proof of the influence of the Greeks on the Israelite belief system. Just as the Persian Zoroastrian religion influenced the Israelites into believing in a monotheistic religion and it also gave us Satan.
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  TIME MAGAZINE -Cult article - singles out Judge Rutherford

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,738983,00.html.

  big, blue-eyed judge joseph frederick rutherford, 60, lives in a ten-room spanish mansion, no.

  4440 braeburn road.

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  It is a sad and claustrophobic life inside and those who hang in there are drained of life like zombies. Their happiness is a lived-in depression still waitin' on Jehovah.

  That makes perfect sense. I think one of the contributing factors to my successful escape was that all my JW friends and most of my family turned their back on me when I became inactive due to my work schedule. By that time the people who were truly looking out for me were non-JWs.
  
  
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  TIME MAGAZINE -Cult article - singles out Judge Rutherford

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,738983,00.html.

  big, blue-eyed judge joseph frederick rutherford, 60, lives in a ten-room spanish mansion, no.

  4440 braeburn road.

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  There's nothing like an old newspaper article to snap the grid tight around the fact we all were once patients in an asylum who escaped to tell a fantastical tale of narrow minds and wasted youth.

  Are we even sane now? One wonders.

  The fact that we ask that proves we are sane. What is insane is that there are still plenty of practicing PIMI JWs who know the full story of Beth Sarim in the context of Rutherford and the Watchtower who let it go in one ear and our the other. I remember as a child my parents telling me about it. They, like everyone else at that time, just laughed it off. So, as a child, I didn't think it was that big of a deal. After all, I trusted my parents like most young children do.

  Now I look at it and think everyone in the Watchtower is nuttier than a squirrel turd in a Texas pecan grove. JWs donated their money to build a mansion in San Diego, California so that when the Princes of Paradise received their early resurrection they would have some place to stay. Rutherford just made sure the beds were warm and the liquor cabinet was stocked. Meanwhile, if you bring this up to JWs of today they will just look you in the eye and say, "So what?" They just file and forget under the heading "Old Light".

  It is as if the cognitive dissonance has them looking back at Old Light with found memories. It is like an old person smiling and saying, "We were so young and naïve back then." It is downright scary.
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  Nearly complete JW literature collection for sale

  by jukief in

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  2. bible

  as many of you know, alan feuerbacher spent 40 years researching watchtower.

  during that time, he bought every item of watchtower literature he could find.

  his collection is so big that it’s impossible for me to try to catalog it, although i might be able to get some volunteers to help me with that.

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  I hope someone does purchase it. Having a physical copy of any book is of great importance. There is a lot of retroactive continuity changes being made in book. This is especially so with Watchtower publications.
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  Here's a question that I guarantee no one has ever thought of!

  by nowwhat? in

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  2. bible

  unlike men who took no note, surely the fallen angels knew of gods plan to flood the earth, so why didn't they build an ark(s) for their nephilum sons?

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  Unlike men who took no note, Surely the fallen angels knew of gods plan to flood the earth, so why didn't they build an ark(s) for their Nephilum sons?

  Great question!

  Follow up question - Why not just get your Nephilum kids onto Noah's ark?
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  Fancy dress parties banned...anyone else?

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. experiences

  we had 2 fancy dress parties in our congregation...before the ban.

  it was the best fun we ever had together.

  problem was some came as pirates with swords!

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  I remember kid parties where the children were to dress like characters from the Bible. Many characters were loyal servants of Jehovah who spilled generous amounts of gentile blood to clear out the promised land. That was ok.

  I remember a party where we played Bible charades. When it was my turn I conscripted the youngest children as possible and my brother. I was Elisha. The children were children. My brother the bear. As my brother pretended to maul the small children all the adults laughed.

  I am so glad we never went to one of the those awful pirate parties.
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  Rutherford and dinosaurs

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sorry if this has been discussed before but on quora someone asked if rutherford had said that dinosaurs had been taken to venus .

  i assume that the questioner had heard it somewhere and wanted to check it out.

  i've never come across this before is it true ?

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  Noah's lesser known cousin, Moah, was told to build a space ark and 2 of every kind of dinosaur and 7 pair of every clean dinosaur to Venus.