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  I understand your separating yourselves from the Org...BUT~

  by Revealed in

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  ...why have you left the god and his son?.

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  Here's a short list of what I found -

  • The creation account of Genesis is allegorical and is partially plagiarized from the Sumerian tale of Gilgamesh.
  • The flood account of Genesis is scientifically impossible and appears plagiarized from the Sumerian tale of Gilgamesh.
  • We today can trace the origin of languages. There was no Tower of Babel language creating event.
  • The is no evidence that Moses ever lived.
  • The historical Israel appears to be a Canaanite tribe that was repeatedly conquered by world powers. Fearing that their culture would disappear as was common of conquered/occupied people, this particular tribe created a mythology in which they are a special people, chosen by a monotheistic god, that would one day be freed from captivity and rule over all other nations. The religion created by these Canaanites borrowed from Zoroastrian beliefs as the Persians were the current conquerors. The god created(YHWH) is an angry, jealous, bloodthirsty persona who approves of whole sale slaughter of people to occupy their land, unless those people use iron chariots (YHWY cannot defeat iron chariots).
  • There is no evidence of a person named "Jesus". 2,000 years ago there was no town or city of Nazareth. That area was a wilderness that possibly had a few farms. No one during that time would be referred to as a "Nazarene".
  • There is no evidence that this Jesus was executed by the Romans, was buried, and then was resurrected 3 days later.

  I do believe there was an enlightened individual in Israel 2,000 years ago who had new teachings. I believe that a mythos was created around this person and that a religion rose from that mythos.

  I agree with the Buddhist Sutra -

  Do not believe in anything (simply) because you have heard it ; Do not believe in traditions, because they been handed down for many generations ; Do not believe in anything, because it is spoken and rumored by many ; Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books ; But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.
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  I understand your separating yourselves from the Org...BUT~

  by Revealed in

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  ...why have you left the god and his son?.

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  Revealed -

  I have read the entire Bible through several times in several translations. I have studied the historical Israel versus the mythological Biblical Israel. I have given a great deal of attention to the teachings of Jesus versus the Apostle Paul.
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  I understand your separating yourselves from the Org...BUT~

  by Revealed in

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  ...why have you left the god and his son?.

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  I just watched a video that asks the question "Why are so many people leaving the Church?"

  It is because organized Christian based religion tells you what to believe, that you must believe it, and you must not question it. It goes on to list all the reasons why churches claim people are leaving and debunks them all. The only reason that holds water is that people are examining their faith and find it empty.

  I left Jehovah's Witnesses after being born in and staying in until my 30s. Then I was a nihilistic antitheist. I began to return to a generic Christianity after 10 years of antitheism. Soon, after more research, I came to realize that the Bible (with the exception of some of the Gospels) was a horrible book and Judeo-Christian faith makes no sense.
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  The Interior Bulletins!

  by Atlantis in

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  in september 1959, anne and i were invited to serve at bethel in paris, france, where i was assigned to take the lead in printing.

  up until the time of our arrival in january 1960, printing had been done by a commercial firm.

  since the watchtower was then banned in france, we printed the magazine each month in the form of a 64-page booklet.

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  The Watchtower was then banned in France

  Stop the press! (No pun intended)

  I never new the Watchtower was banned in France. What is the backstory on this?
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  Three children families stop step decline in Mormon membership

  by joe134cd in

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  2. experiences

  i just posted this on a seperate thread, but i think it deserves its own thread.

  this is with regard to the pew survey that states “2 out of three 3 born into the jehovah’s witness faith.

  will not remain in the faith as adults.”.

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  I once heard it said that there are 3 kinds of lies -

  Lies

  Damn Lies

  Statistics

  Numbers don't lie, but how those numbers are presented can be misleading.
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  A question I have had since I was in the cult

  by mickbobcat in

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  so anointed ones go to heaven and rule with christ.

  men and women on earth can be of the anointed.

  so does that mean woman are tranny's who are of the anointed?

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  No person born a woman can be of the anointed, the anointed 144,000 must be virginal men only.

  Many who profess to be of the annointed, including the Governing Body, did not get the memo.
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  The Poor the Wealthy and the Middle Class

  by Simon in

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  the poor spendthe middle-class savethe wealthy invest.

  the unique circumstances of the lockdown and stimulus checks has highlighted these differences in stark ways.. on one hand, you have jumps in sales and valuation of companies like foot locker and nike, as people spend their "free" government money on sneakers.

  they blow it on useless tat.

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  If you eat at least once a day, have access to clean water, wear clean clothes, have a roof over your head when you go to sleep you, have a dollar in your pocket, and a dollar in the bank you are rich. Most people on this planet don't have these things. People who make a big deal about wealth never ask how happy people are.
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  How many states have you ever lived in? (USA)

  by Iamallcool in

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  i only have lived in 4 states!

  michigan.

  georgia.

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  Minnesota

  Florida

  California

  Texas
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  The Animal Sentience Bill - what next?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  so, in the uk there was recently a bill which was nodded through parliament - the animal sentience bill - which was backed by vegan activists.. dogs, cats.

  cows, even lobsters now have been recognised to have feelings.. first of all, let me say that if you want to go vegan that's fine with me.

  we're all allowed our individual dietary choices.. but for how much longer?

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  I am more of a vegetarian (I like eggs & cheese). I also like freedom. I have borrowed this saying - "If it is such a good idea, why does it have to be made mandatory?"
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  JWs who are now paying the price of following the cult.

  by mickbobcat in

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  my in-laws are two such people.

  people who pioneered and did not work and try to save, instead they made just enough to get by and waited for the end to come.

  now my mil is in palliative care and the state is paying for her keep, my fil lives in a dilapidated home and can not keep it up.

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  My father started his own business. He could have made a decent retirement for himself. Instead, he chose to go out in service more.

  Now I am 5 years from being able to retire from my job and collect my pension. My parents barely get by and my father still has to work part time in his 80s. In his eyes, I am the dummy.