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  What’s Your Prediction For Covid & Its Consequences?

  by minimus in

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  will we close down again?

  will we be masked forever?

  will we be required to get vaccinated over and over again?

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4M
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  Splane`s war rhetoric

  by inbetween09 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the last talk o the saturday convention of jw was already often the centre of discussion, with all the name calling, logical fallacies and fear mongering.

  however, it was interesting, not just what and how splane adressed the matter, also what he actually had to admit.

  1) he had to admit, that the org is actually loosing court battles, left and right.

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  I had another thought come to me. The first step any trial by jury is to sit a jury. This is a process of elimination. A large panel of jurors is brought in and put under oath under penalty of perjury to answer questions honestly.

  This process is to assure that the jury is fair and impartial to both side in a trial. I would imagine the Watchtower's attorney would ask questions such as -

  • Are you currently or have you ever been one of Jehovah's Witnesses?
  • Are you related to someone who is currently or has ever been one of Jehovah's Witnesses?
  • How familiar are you with Jehovah's Witnesses and their beliefs?

  In addition, attorneys are given information on all the perspective jurors. The Watchtower attorneys could research Watchtower publisher records to see if any of the jurors have ever been a Witness.

  My point - I promise you the Watchtower attorneys would make sure that no one with any connection to their religion would be on the jury. That means not one of these juries had a single apostate on them.

  Many attorneys wave a jury trial and have a trial by court. That means the Judge is the sole decider of fact. Likewise, a Watchtower attorney would ask a Judge who had any connection to their religion to recuse themselves and the case would be moved to a different court. Once again, no apostate connection.
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  2021-08-August-S-147-Announcements And Reminders!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2021-august-s-147-announcements and reminders.

  in english and german.

  see number 10.10. experienced attorneys and paralegals needed: .

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  Notice the request for litigation attorneys. That is another way of saying "trial attorneys". Most attorneys never see the inside of a courtroom let alone go to trial. This is a specific call for attorneys with trial experience.
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  Catholicism and Orthodoxy- 2000 yrs of experience

  by Powermetal4ever in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  alright this has been in my brain lately: both catholic church and the orthodox church has been around for about 2000 years, shouldn't they know how to practice christendom correctly by now?

  jw hasn't even been around for 200 years and yet they say they do it right.

  so silly of them.

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  Truth is eternal. Belief is dynamic. The Bible moves the goal posts of salvation. First, obey the law Moses gave and sacrifice animals for forgiveness of sin. Next, obey Jesus' teachings and accept Jesus' sacrifice as your savior or for forgiveness of your sins. From early Christian sects we eventually get the Roman Catholic Church. Then its the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church. Then we get untold number of sects as a result of the Reformation.

  It is no longer even a matter of moving the goal posts on the football pitch. It is a game of chess. The pieces are constantly being moved and you have to move your pieces to stay in the game.
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  Splane`s war rhetoric

  by inbetween09 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the last talk o the saturday convention of jw was already often the centre of discussion, with all the name calling, logical fallacies and fear mongering.

  however, it was interesting, not just what and how splane adressed the matter, also what he actually had to admit.

  1) he had to admit, that the org is actually loosing court battles, left and right.

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  Roadie - My wife only noted the apostate warning part. Told me they are really active.

  I get the impression that the Governing Body could do a JW Broadcast in which they make a press release that the whole religion is a scam and it would go in one ear then right out the other of most Witnesses. Not even a video recorded confession would convince most Witnesses the religion is a scam.
  
  
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  Catholicism and Orthodoxy- 2000 yrs of experience

  by Powermetal4ever in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  alright this has been in my brain lately: both catholic church and the orthodox church has been around for about 2000 years, shouldn't they know how to practice christendom correctly by now?

  jw hasn't even been around for 200 years and yet they say they do it right.

  so silly of them.

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  truth_b_known

  Pick up a set on Ante Nicene Church Fathers if you want to check out what was going on directly after the apostles left the scene. This volume set lists the writings of church leaders until 325 AD. It's easy to read the writings of the leaders that the apostles trained, and who they trained and so forth.

  This pretty much wraps it up and puts a bow on it.
  
  
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  Splane`s war rhetoric

  by inbetween09 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the last talk o the saturday convention of jw was already often the centre of discussion, with all the name calling, logical fallacies and fear mongering.

  however, it was interesting, not just what and how splane adressed the matter, also what he actually had to admit.

  1) he had to admit, that the org is actually loosing court battles, left and right.

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  truth_b_known

  In a court of law the term they use is "He opened the door." This refers to questions the opposing attorney would not be able to ask due to the law, but because the question was asked or the fact was brought up it is no legally allowed. Splane admitted there are lawsuits. Splane admitted the Watchtower is either losing them or settling out of court. We live in a day and ae where most people know settling out of court is 1) An admission of guilt of liability and 2) the purpose is to pay the victim for their silence on the matter.

  The Watchtower is not putting their lamp on a lamp stand. They are hiding their lamp under a basket.
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  Did You Experience People Always Seeming To Get Offended?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  there always seems to be someone offended by something.

  in today’s world if you don’t see eye to eye with someone they claim to be offended.

  if you don’t support a cause that someone deems important, they get offended.

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  When I was rather young I remember the first Muppets movie came out. My mother took my siblings and I to see it with some other sisters and their young children. One sister took offense to a scene in which Ms. Piggy falls on top of Kermit the Frog and the two lock eyes. That is the scene. Rated "G" for "General Audience".

  What I found was that it seemed like a game for Witnesses to find fault with whatever they could. It was a Righteous Over Much (ROM is what we called them. No offense to the Space Knight) exercise. Just pick any object or activity and someone would find something wrong with it based on "Bible principles".

  I remember when I was in the second grade. The school year was about to end for summer break and Star Wars: The Return of Jedi was about to come out. Everyone was excited and making plans to see it. The day before it came out we had our School and Service Meeting. The brother giving the number 2 talk used it to cast a self-righteous shadow on Return of the Jedi as it was "violent". Less violent than the Bible reading of the Israelites slaying Canaanites, but violent none the less. After the meeting everyone was changing their minds about seeing the movie. Brother Wet Blanket, thank you for covering that Bible reading so well.
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  Catholicism and Orthodoxy- 2000 yrs of experience

  by Powermetal4ever in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  alright this has been in my brain lately: both catholic church and the orthodox church has been around for about 2000 years, shouldn't they know how to practice christendom correctly by now?

  jw hasn't even been around for 200 years and yet they say they do it right.

  so silly of them.

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  truth_b_known

  Charles Taze Russell is the founder of the Watchtower religion. It is one of thousands of sects that came to being due to the Reformation Movement started by Martin Luther. It is Luther's "Five Solas" that are responsible for the disharmony of the church -

  • Sola scriptura ("by Scripture alone")
  • Sola fide ("by faith alone")
  • Sola gratia ("by grace alone")
  • Solus Christus or Solo Christo ("Christ alone" or "through Christ alone")
  • Soli Deo gloria ("glory to God alone")

  Because of Luther's teachings the idea that the Bible should be interpreted literally. Luther also lobbied for the removal of several books of the Bible. He was partially successful. Any book of the Bible that contained scripture that opposed the Five Solas Luther wanted removed.

  So, yes, it is quite amazing that the Watchtower has the gall to make such a claim.

  
  
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  Jesus, without sin and a perfect human being ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  how could he be, regardless of how god impregnated mary, as she was a sinful human just like the rest of us according to the bible.. mary was subjected to the adamic sin like all other humans, so jesus had to at least be part sinner himself.. to believe otherwise is just deluding oneself imho .. the only way jesus could have been really without sin is if god created him the same way he created adam.. what do you think ?

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  truth_b_known

  Just a point of clarification:

  Siddharth Gautama, the first Buddha ("Enlightened One" or "Awakened One") is not a god, never claimed to be a god, and gave specific instructions not to worship him. The Buddha taught how to end our suffering and how to gain enlightenment, Nirvana, to stop the endless cycle of birth, death, and rebirth. When asked questions about whether there is a God or not, whether or not we have a soul that lives forever or not, whether there was a beginning to the universe or not, the Buddha refused to answer. The reason is because these things have no bearing on our gaining enlightenment or the ending of our suffering.

  Siddhartha Gautama died and was cremated. His ashes were deposited into several site around Asia. You can visit them today.

  I believe the Biblical character known as Jesus did exist. I believe that man was similar to the Gautama Buddha - he gained enlightenment around the ago of 30 and then dedicated his life to teaching people what he had learned. I believe Jesus' fasting in the wilderness is where he gained this enlightenment. Gautama obtained enlightenment after meditating for 24 straight hours under a tree.

  Gautama was raised a Hindu and therefor used Hindu cosmology to help people understand his teachings. Likewise, I believe Jesus was raised in the Judaic religion and used its teaching to help the Israelites understand what he was trying to get across to people. Jesus claimed to be a son of God. He also taught that were are all sons of God, that is to say - divine in nature. I believe the Israelites had him executed for this.

  I believe after Jesus execution there were opportunists who embellished on Jesus' story. Eventually Jesus was deified. Christianity was invented, adopted by the Roman Empire as a control mechanism, and imposed on the citizens as the official state religion.