Good to know something use full came out of Bethel.
I second the sentiment. If you find out what they are making and it is for sale, please let us know.
i was crusin you tube, came across a guy fabricating a blacksmiths hammering station, built around a antique post vise.
the center piece was a slab of 1 inch t1 steel [expensive].
he said the steel came from a printing press out of new york city.. .
Good to know something use full came out of Bethel.
I second the sentiment. If you find out what they are making and it is for sale, please let us know.
So far one god, one Buddha
Minimus - That was a "no" for me. The Buddha stated it is better to do go things and strive for your goals through action rather than pray for the outcome you want.
notice that i left off "benevolent" .
reason being is because i could argue that being all knowing and all powerful is not a prerequisite of being "good".
yet i'm a firm believer that "something didn't come from nothing".
Benevolent meaning "well meaning and kindly" does not equal universal butler and Superman.
People are born, get sick, feel pain, suffer, grow old, and die. Conversely people also experience joy, peace, and happiness. The are two side of the same coin - Life. You cannot eradicate one side of a coin without destroying the whole coin. That is why the Christian/JW vision of la-la land cannot be.
notice that i left off "benevolent" .
reason being is because i could argue that being all knowing and all powerful is not a prerequisite of being "good".
yet i'm a firm believer that "something didn't come from nothing".
How did you reach that conclusion, truth_b_known?
Animals/insects have a certain level of awareness. Animals insects build structures that have function, but do not having meaning or purpose. That is to say, wildlife have been witnessed to make structures to reside in. Whereas human build structures to reside in (function), but also build structures that have purpose. Examples are structures used for religious practice (church, temple, etc.) or for education (school, university, etc.), or to maintain order (capitol, courthouse, etc.)
Wildlife sees the structures human make. Wildlife is not aware of the purpose of the above describe structures. Wildlife can only see the functionality (a place to seek protection from elements/threats) of the structures. This is due to a lower level of consciousness/awareness.
What I theorize is that there may be life with a higher level of consciousness than our own. As such, we may not be able to comprehend it as our own consciousness is not high enough. The problem then is how does one prove this without raising one's awareness or level of consciousness? The answer may be - you don't.
I prescribe to the Gautama Buddha's idea on prayer - If prayer worked we would all have what we want rather than have to work for what we want.
notice that i left off "benevolent" .
reason being is because i could argue that being all knowing and all powerful is not a prerequisite of being "good".
yet i'm a firm believer that "something didn't come from nothing".
It is possible we like a high enough level of consciousness to be aware of such a being.
notice that i left off "benevolent" .
reason being is because i could argue that being all knowing and all powerful is not a prerequisite of being "good".
yet i'm a firm believer that "something didn't come from nothing".
I think the totality of the universe and all consciousness are one. That is what you describe.
the following is a conversation i had with my pimi father regarding a news segment on tv dealing with csa.
joe: that’s terrible the incidences of csa happening in the community.
dad: yes it is.
I told him that even if the WT lost all of its assets, including kingdom halls and assemblies, this would not translate to the end of the religion. The members would still be able to connect (through teams, in parcs, in community centers, etc), share their beliefs and live their faith. With time, they would be able to start new, build new halls, new bethels and go on.
When I was a Witness I thought the same thing in regards to the belief that at some point governments would turn on religion. It didn't make sense that only Christendom and other religions would have their assets seized and not the Watchtower. This would prove that the Watchtower is not the religion, Jehovah's Witnesses are.
Now, I see that just can't be. Witnesses are lead to believe that any information that has a source outside of printed material from the Watchtower, JW.org website, or JW Broadcasting is not to be trusted. Therefor, the Watchtower is the modern day Golden Calf of El.
do you think he could get reinstated as president?
do you think trump will run again for president or do you think he will just be a force for the republican party behind the scenes?.
I also echo the belief that De Santis will be the 2024 Republican Party Presidential Candidate.
i often drive past a kingdom hall in barrington, illinois, where, when i was still a witness, i had visited a few times.
it wasn't too far from the hall i attended and we got to know people from this congregation.. i recently passed it by and it appeared there was a new sign in place.
yesterday i decided to pull into the parking lot on my way home, and it appears that the hall has been sold and is now occupied by seventh day adventists (i did a check online when i got home).
I don't know, but I imagine they were absorbed into another congregation.
I also find it ironic that the Seventh Day Adventists are now using the old Kingdom Hall. Aren't they one of the splinter groups of the International Bible Students after the hostile takeover of the Watchtower by Rutherford?