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Newest Anti-Apostate Tactics

by Anna Marina in

don't quote any scriptures during the watchtower study that are not in the paragraph.. don't quote the governing body or anything from the broadcast ever.

it might be true but it is not true truth if it is coming out of your mouth if you have been critical of the governing body.

especially so if your criticism is valid and you have dared to support you view with scriptures, most especially the words of jesus christ.. anyone know of other new tactics?.

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It's drummed into your head by the Circuit Overseer, no extra research, even if it is JW literature, and no extra scriptures. We were told that the slave knew all of the extra research that we want to bring out, and the FS decided to leave it out and so should we! "We don't know more than the slave, do we? So leave it on the cutting room floor," was the C.O.'s words.

Wow! I left totally in 2010, but stopped attending meetings in 2007. I always remember people being praised from the platform for doing extra research for the benefit of the congregation. Now members are under strict orders to just be intellectually lazy and only listen to repeat.

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Environmentalist changes mind on apocalyptic global warming

by wolverines in

so he comes out of the movement and says this has become much less about environmentalism and more about trying to turn the world to marxism.

we have seen this in the blm, antifa and other so called movements that are a thin mask for the real goal.

and we know marxism has killed more people then the plague.

truth_b_known

If all carbon producing practices were immediately halted it would be a drop in the bucket in regards to greenhouse gas emissions. 51% of greenhouse gases are produced by the animal agriculture industry. 91% of rain forest deforestation is directly related to the animal agriculture industry.

Cars and coal burning power plants pale in comparison to the pollution cause by meat and dairy farms. If you think it would be hard to get people to trade in their car for a bicycle, try asking people to trade their cheeseburger for a salad.

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Prophesy from a JW (and others perspective). What purpose is there in trying to interpretate some of the stuff that you don't understand??

by RubaDub in

this is not a jw-bashing thing, but it always seemed odd to me that the "excuse" when things go wrong is that "we have to wait and see how the prophesy is fulfilled" or some other wording.. my question has always been, then what is the purpose of the prophesy if you don't understand it until after the fact?

isn't that like having a weather forecast but being told that we don't really know what the weather will be until the next day?.

i'm sure some of the intelligent people here can guide me but in all honesty, i never understood that..

truth_b_known

To add to the question; what of persons going out of their way to fulfill Biblical prophecy? We are told that the Old Testament contains prophecy of a coming Messiah. Christians argue that the Jesus of the New Testament is the person who fulfilled the prophecy. Practicing Jews would argue otherwise, saying that Jesus did not fulfill all of the required prophesies to be the Messiah.

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JW News

by neat blue dog in

the latest news release on jwdotorg concludes with the sentence: "more information will be provided on jw news as we confirm the details of this ongoing situation.".

i just thought it was funny them using the capitalized phrase "jw news" now.

imagine jwn, the ultimate fake news network 😅.

truth_b_known

"Get up-to-date truth as it changes here at JW News..."

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"The Best Convention Ever" - 2020 starts today

by bats in the belfry in

dress up for the show.

... and now please be seated.

proudly presenting your 2020 convention program.. ... and, thank god, for the ff button on my player.

truth_b_known

How would one simulate a long held Convention tradition - Walking the corridors during the sessions? Do sisters still have to simulate standing in line for 45 minutes to use the restroom? Best life ever!

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Newest Anti-Apostate Tactics

by Anna Marina in

don't quote any scriptures during the watchtower study that are not in the paragraph.. don't quote the governing body or anything from the broadcast ever.

it might be true but it is not true truth if it is coming out of your mouth if you have been critical of the governing body.

especially so if your criticism is valid and you have dared to support you view with scriptures, most especially the words of jesus christ.. anyone know of other new tactics?.

truth_b_known

Would you mind posting a quote from that Watchtower in this thread?

This sounds like "Say nothing - Listen and obey!"

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Did you enjoy some of these back then?

by Mandrake in

i was bored to death this sunday, and suddenly i remembered that it could be worse if having to attend the public meeting on a sunday, even worse, not being assigned to the sound department, accomodating, being the mic guy, or reading the wt at the platform... then i realized that i hated just "attending" and sitting at meetings, those "privileges" were the only thing i enjoyed and made my last months inside bearable.... did you enjoy these assignments?

truth_b_known

That definitely described me. The longer the session the more I wanted something to occupy my time. I often got assigned to help with the Accounts Department at Assemblies and Convention. I don't know how I could have sat through 8 hours of talks that I had heard over and over for decades.

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The Watchtower—Study Edition | August 2020

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower—study edition | august 2020 .

study article 33. the resurrection reveals god’s love, wisdom, and patience.

8 for a number of reasons, we can assume that those greeting resurrected individuals will be able to recognize their loved ones.

truth_b_known

I have another question:

Will those resurrected in the New World be re-created imperfect like Lazarus? After all, Lazarus was brought back from the dead only to die again. So, Lazarus was resurrected into an imperfect body of sin. If that is the case, then would Jehovah be creating imperfection? If no, they would be re-created in perfection, then would they be able to speak to Jehovah directly without Jesus as an inter-mediator as Adam did because they are without sin?

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In the USA, why so often is the vote for President just a vote against someone?

by RubaDub in

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in my lifetime, (i will include kennedy even though i was probably breast-feeding at the time), but it seems that there have been relatively few presidents that we vote "for.

" my list would be kennedy, reagan, clinton and obama.

i'm not talking about their politics here but who generally got voted for, instead of simply voting against.. any thoughts?.

truth_b_known

To answer only the question asked of Rub-a-Dub, I believe it has to do with the national parties. The national parties have become the true power in the U.S. If a politician wants to get elected he or she must worship at the feet of the party leaders and by party leaders I do not refer to a single elected official.

Locally where I live if a person wants to get elected to office he or she must kiss the ring of the party leaders. If the party leaders believe a candidate will be a faithful and obedient puppet for the party, that candidate will receive the endorsement of every club, elected official, as well as receive generous campaign fund contributions. At any time an elected official poses a perceived threat to a party leader, the party will run 2 strong candidates against them in the primary.

In ancient times the religious elite pulled the strings of kings and emperors. Political parties have replaced religions in the U.S. I can't think of a better example of this than the 2016 DNC National Convention in which the DNC rejected the party members' decision and went with Hillary over Sanders.

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When did WT lose the spirit?

by Smiles in

at what time would you say that the watch tower schema lost the spirit?.

like the ancient nation of israel which struggled maintaining divine blessing due to a long series of grave errors that eventually culminated in definitive loss... how and when did watch tower lose the spirit?.

can we pinpoint a time or event?.

truth_b_known

I think a better way of posing the question would be "When did the Watchtower lose it." "It" being the beginning of of the end for the Watchtower. I know when I saw it. Things started unraveling when the powers that be (Governing Body) started taking any joy out of being a Witness.

It started with little things. Conventions shortened. Food service stopped at Assemblies and Conventions. Circuit Assemblies went from two 2 day assemblies to one 2 day and one 1 day.

The next bit of joy that was removed were large gatherings. As a kid I loved the congregation picnics. The whole congregation would show up to a park and have a huge potluck cookout. Sometimes we would do bonfires on a beach. People would bring instruments and play music together.

I realize a lot of what I wrote was through the eyes of my child self. It just seems like there were good times. Then the Governing Body killed any joy that was left.

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