N.drew, I tend to agree with you. God's thoughts is above our thoughts, and His standards is different to ours. And an excellent example is "widows and orphans." According to the Bible, from the Mosaic Law to James, the thought crops up that we must look after "widows and orphans". Certainly humilty would come in when we look out for them. When you defraud or harm them, then you will take on God Himself. Jesus said you can summarize those "ordinances" as: Love God, love your neighbour. I think that's good advice. God's standards remain the same, so the problem lies with us, when we try, but fall short. So the message for me is not to stop trying.
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8What does "Seek Righteousness" mean?
by N.drew inzephaniah 2:3. world english bible.
seek yahweh, all you humble of the land, who have kept his ordinances.
but, who have kept his ordinances, means their own righteousness.
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Paul struggling with his sexual desires, Romans 7;14-24
by jam ini think paul was having a difficult time in keeping those.
desires in check.
in vs. 23 he speaks about sin which.
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Vidqun
Jam, I think you're right. If Paul was normal (and he was unmarried), sexual desires would be one of the things he was struggling with. It's natural, is it not? Here have freedom of speech. I speak of personal experience.
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Two Prophets Who Abode the Night
by Cold Steel ini've been trying to find this in the new testament for some time.
the storyline goes like this: prophet a fulfills his mission and is told to go straightaway home.
but he abides the night with a friend, who also i think is a prophet.
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Vidqun
I think this is what you want: 1 Kings 13. Jeroboam told his men to grab the prophet telling the bad news and God protected him [13:4]. But he was warned that he should not hang around and not to return the same way he came [13:8]. When the old prophet invited him and convinced him to stay [13:14-19], he was disobedient to God's original instruction, and killed [13:26]. All came to nought, the king did not listen to his instruction. He and his household were wiped out [33]. Funny little story, with a moral lesson.
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My 1-Year Anniversary as a JWN Member
by dontplaceliterature in...is today.
it's been a wild 12 months.
i went back to look at my introduction post, and my how things have changed!
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Vidqun
DPL, now that I have read both your threads, I am more up to date. Here's a bit of advice. Even if you do not believe in the Bible anymore, do take an active interest in it, even if though it might only be academic. This will help you stay "in contact" with your wife. The complaint of most of those that have an unbelieving mate, are that they are unable to discuss "spiritual things" with them. And be careful to not be overly negative, because that will really stifle the relationship. My two cents, for what it's worth. Happy anniversary!
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Introduction
by dontplaceliterature inbefore i begin my introductory post, i would like to mention that a number of my initial comments here may be viewed by several of you as watchtower apologist or as sympathetic to the views of the jehovahs witnesses.
the last thing i want to do is incite a flame war regarding my legitimacy or intentions in joining this forum.
mostly, i would describe myself as on the fence.
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Vidqun
Quite a change since your first post on this thread. No, I'm not witnessing to you. I wanted your opinion. It's not information that you will find amongst the Witnesses. They have another version of events. However, I respect your outlook. End of query.
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'If your body members you control...'
by Unlearn in'if your body members you control,.
you make known that the truth is your own.'.
this verse in particular from the jw song 'make the truth your own' has provided several instances of hysterical laughter between my wife and i.. just think about it.
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Vidqun
That is what one would call wishful thinking? It probably originates with the Knorr-era. Do not touch and you'll be happy, which turns out to be just another lie.
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Introduction
by dontplaceliterature inbefore i begin my introductory post, i would like to mention that a number of my initial comments here may be viewed by several of you as watchtower apologist or as sympathetic to the views of the jehovahs witnesses.
the last thing i want to do is incite a flame war regarding my legitimacy or intentions in joining this forum.
mostly, i would describe myself as on the fence.
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Vidqun
Why I asked? I read your Introduction, and I see a lot of parallels in your story and mine. But I do realize now, the thread is 11 months old, so a lot of water has run under the bridge since then. I think your parents did a great job, being liberally-minded and encouraging you to better yourself, even if that did go against the grain somewhat. So you owe them a debt of gratitude. But I can imagine, things might have become more complicated since then. Your "downfall" was being a well-read, open-minded, and a free thinker, anathema to those clinging to the "truth".
What opened my eyes was the UN-NGO-scandal, and their reaction to it. From there I had to adapt my thinking and theology to the new situation. Here's a few thoughts that you might find interesting. First of all, the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses has to be destroyed totally. Their preaching work will come to an end - something that should make you happy (cf. Dan. 11:41; 12:7; Rev. 11:7). This must take place for God said: "I am making all things new." He can't make things new if remnants of the old remain (2 Pet. 3:13; Rev. 21:5). The "great crowd" from all nations and tribes and tongues, coming out of the great tribulation cannot be numbered (definitely not only 7 million). What about those claiming to be of the anointed? They will be tested as to fitness first (Zech. 13:7-14:5). And if you did participate in political affairs by riding the beast, your name will not feature in the book of life (cf. James 4:4; Rev. 13:8; 17:8). Feel free to comment on the above.
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Introduction
by dontplaceliterature inbefore i begin my introductory post, i would like to mention that a number of my initial comments here may be viewed by several of you as watchtower apologist or as sympathetic to the views of the jehovahs witnesses.
the last thing i want to do is incite a flame war regarding my legitimacy or intentions in joining this forum.
mostly, i would describe myself as on the fence.
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Vidqun
DPL, as a young Jehovah's Witness, how do you feel about the fact that the Society had belonged to the UN as a NGO for a period of ten years (1992-2002)? Would such a thing bother you at all? Are you aware of terms like "the disgusting thing causing desolation," and "the wild beast ascending out of the abyss," and what they mean? Last, but not least, the governing body vs. the faithful and discreet slave? What are your thoughts on that? Thanks in anticipation for your attention.
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Who designed cancer?
by snare&racket inone thing i regret, is not listening to the questions in my head whilst a jw.
one i didn't ask until years after leaving was....who designed disease?
of course the first thing to realise is the complexity of disease, the histology, pathology and aetiology.
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Vidqun
Yes I can see it now, 2-4% of Neanderthal genes are a serious under estimation. You are all Neanderthal. So what have I learnt? There are Neanderthals amongst us. So you are actually walking proof of your argument. You have proved your point. Congratulations!
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Who designed cancer?
by snare&racket inone thing i regret, is not listening to the questions in my head whilst a jw.
one i didn't ask until years after leaving was....who designed disease?
of course the first thing to realise is the complexity of disease, the histology, pathology and aetiology.
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Vidqun
Ballistic, you're right. There's more important things to concentrate on. This argument is going nowhere fast.