It isn't fast. Where did you get the idea that evolution was a fast process?
TheUbermensch
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What is the spark that powers Evolution?
by N.drew ini have no idea, that is why i'm asking.
i did mention on another thread that need might be involed, but they said no.
so what powers evolution?
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What is the spark that powers Evolution?
by N.drew ini have no idea, that is why i'm asking.
i did mention on another thread that need might be involed, but they said no.
so what powers evolution?
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TheUbermensch
What do you mean by saying something concerning evolution and then saying in my opinion? That's like saying "Well gravity is x in my opinion". While there are different viewpoints INSIDE of the evolutionary theory, the general idea is set in stone (until we find anything that says different. What in the hell is random inventiveness? Are you saying that evolution is something randomly adding on parts to certain things for fun, and thus randomly inventing some sort of innovation or something? There is nothing random about natural selection (the main gear in the theory of evolution), so your "random inventiveness" idea is complete crap.
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Remakes Of Songs
by minimus ini always loved al green's let's stay together!
still, tina turner's version is very different and i love that too.
crying, by roy orbison is great and so is k.d.
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TheUbermensch
I actually prefer the lesser known and hard to find version of "Hurt" by Peter Murphy (lead singer of Bauhaus...Bauhaus later went on to form Love and Rockets without Mr. Murphy).
Nirvana's remake of D-7, Return of the Rat (originally by the Wipers, great band, Is It Real? is one of the best albums ever), and Jesus Doesn't Want Me For A Sunbeam.
Sex Pistols "Roadrunner" over The Modern Lovers original (mostly because Rotten is pissed off cause he can't remember the lyrics to it).
Sex Pistols "No Fun" over The Stooges original.
Roy Orbison's "Love Hurts" is MUCH better (IMHO) then the Everly Brothers, Jim Capaldi's or Nazareth's.
Classical music's best cover is La Campanella (Liszt), which sounds much better than Paganini's original.
I have to go with leavingwt, never heard a cover of the Beatles that sounded even half as good.
Never heard a cover of Elvis Presley that sounded close to good.
Pearl Jam's Last Kiss sucks compared to the original by Wayne Cochran, but I like J. Frank Wilson and the Caviliers version the best out of the tons of people who have covered that song.
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What is the spark that powers Evolution?
by N.drew ini have no idea, that is why i'm asking.
i did mention on another thread that need might be involed, but they said no.
so what powers evolution?
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TheUbermensch
What J.Hofer is trying to say is that evolution has no spark. Nothing causes it besides existence. Evolution is, as he said, a process. There wasn't anything that caused it besides millions of generations of living beings.
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Stupid reasons why songs are labeled "bad"
by WTWizard inone, i have heard that, since boy george was on heroin, that listening to culture club would amount to taking it yourself.
to me, that is a lame excuse to ruin a song or discography.. another example was michael jackson's thriller album.
they wanted me to get rid of that album because i would be "supporting that apostate" by listening to cuts from it.
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TheUbermensch
Donovan? AHAHAHAHAH. Wow, folk music labeled as bad? Yikes. Donovan's first album was amazing.
I had to hide Nevemind the Bollocks from my grandmother. ahahahahahah Thank God she never found it.
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Free Will and Foreknowledge
by TheUbermensch inhi, i'm a new member that enjoys civil debate, so i thought i'd just throw a topic out there.. if we take the standard, contemporary judeo-christian god (all-knowing, all powerful, and perfectly good in every possible way) and attempt to incorporate free will, we end up with a contradiction.
an all knowing being knows everything that has occured, is occuring and will occur, if otherwise then we can not consider this being to know all.
if god knows all that will happen, then he knows our decisions, as well as the outcomes of those decisions.
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TheUbermensch
You just attempted to oversimplify philosphy into three thinking methods? Yikes.
Actually, philosophy handles everything that we do. Every action and thought that a human being does/has is affected by philosophy. Objective, Intrinsic, and Subjective are three schools of thought concerning areas of philosphy. The way you described them, I am assuming (since you didn't actually address any philosophical area of study) that you were speaking of existentialism, since reality was the mainpoint to your three "explanations".
I do believe you misunderstand philosophy. There isn't anything that is set and stone. So, as you say, "mixing philosophies" is literally impossible. Philosophy is universal. There aren't certain areas of philosophy that you can't mix with others. It's all "mixable".
Philosophy does not answer "1. What do we know and 2. How do we know it?" It also answers What can we know? Can we know at all? How can we know it? Is there anything to know in the first place? Philosophy also answers questions outside of epistemological questioning (which is basically all you talked about). It also answers How should we live? Why do we live? Should we live? Are we actually living? It also answers logical questions, What is logic? Is logic in and of itself logical? Can logic answer all? Is logic limited? Morality, Ethics, and Consciousness are also major parts (morality probably being the most discussed philosophical subject in history). Cause and effect and how Hume disproved the universal truth that IS Cause and effect (which is hardly known by anyone, and is still taught in schools). Political Philosophy Limited government? Imposing government? For the good of few or many? And then another major area of study, metaphysical traits and values, concerning deities, religious dogma, etc. And MUCH more.
I truly hope that people haven't taken your word for it (if you've said something along the same lines in the past), because you have just taken one of the most important factors that effects everything that everyone does, and shot it down as unimportant and meaningless.
And to give you examples of "mixing". Moral philosophy GREATLY affects political philosophy (Marx, Locke, Rousseau). Logic greatly affects metaphysical propositions.
P.S. Hellinistic philosophy is such a small section of the world that is philosophy. Medieval, and contemporary thought are the most discussed and constantly changing viewpoints (much like science) that there is. In fact, philosophy is a lot like science. Aristotle was a great mind, but unfortunately the time that he lived in was very limited in knowledge, and thus he was stifled. Aristotelian thought, besides his logic, isn't considered as important as more modern though, although every professor of Aristotelian thought would say otherwise. Plato, luckily, didn't discuss timely things, instead, most of his writings concerned political philosophy (The Republic), reality (his Allegory of the Cave) morality and justice (Crito) and the immortal soul (Phaedo). Epicurus discussed God (one of the first). However, philosophers throught time have critiqued other works, and have slowly started towards truth, just like science. They are very similar in their ever changing, ever molding ways.
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Stupid reasons why songs are labeled "bad"
by WTWizard inone, i have heard that, since boy george was on heroin, that listening to culture club would amount to taking it yourself.
to me, that is a lame excuse to ruin a song or discography.. another example was michael jackson's thriller album.
they wanted me to get rid of that album because i would be "supporting that apostate" by listening to cuts from it.
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TheUbermensch
I listened to Black Flag and the likes during my short stint as a believer. LOL
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An Old Argument.... does it hold water?
by AK - Jeff inestimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.
that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.
still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.
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TheUbermensch
Well, this discussion is definitely over. Q definitely just defeated every theist on the thread. The best way to win an argument is to show how irrational/predictable the opposing side's rebuttals are, and he just did that. Whether believers accept it or not, they just lost... horribly. VICTORY!!!! LOL
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I don't believe there is a heaven...
by Snoozy ini don't believe there is a heaven that so many religions teach, do you?
it all sounds like a fairy tale made up to make dying easier or as a threat to make someone have a conscience... i got into a discussion about it with my jw converted to catholic daughter and she just couldn't believe anyone could feel like i do.
i am glad she threw away the jw teachings and glad she believes in something so wonderful but i for one just can't.
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TheUbermensch
. Regarding God being a Murder... First your numbers of "Millions and Millions" is not accurate for representing the occasions when God commissioned His people to carry out judgment on corrupt and degenerate heathen nations through the profits of Israel in the Old testament.
Actually it is accurate. He did not say only in the Bible, he also meant (correct me if I'm wrong Farkel) things like the Crusades, Inquisition, etc. Wars outside the Bible that happened because their sky daddy was MUCH more powerful than the other sky daddy.
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Watchtower 2008 says belief in Evolution makes you a helpless lost Orphan???
by Witness 007 inwatch feb 1st "if we really are the product of evolution and there is no creator, the human race would in a sense be an orphan.
mankind would have no source of superior wisdom to consult - no one to help us solve our problems.
we would have to resort to human wisdom to avert enviromental disaster.
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TheUbermensch
Every helpless lost orphan I've met has denied Intelligent Design and supported the theory of Evolution, so I'd say it's about accurate.