Of course he has his sweat wiping rag on his side for quick dispatch of any droplets that might form on his brow.
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Who writes the WBT$ 'publications'(TM)?
by punkofnice inflipper's brilliant thread got me thinking.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/244690/1/crazy-weird-quotes-in-1-15-wt-article-wt-society-opinions-nothing-more.
yeah, i know it's the 'writing committee'(tm).. who the hades are these jumped up nitwits?
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I have thought that they must have some NLP in there somewhere.
I remember reading the magazines and whenever I would see the word demonstrated it was usually always at the end of a line where it was broken demon-
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I do not remember it being ever in one word. Possible but thought that if I were the WTBTS and were shooting striaght I would do my best to make sure that this did not happen.
So who know,...
I think that it was my stumbling on Derren Brown shows on TV and then watching his stuff on youtube that gave me the impetus to start to see how easily human minds can be altered into thinking whatever a person would like it to.
WAKE UP CALL,....
The first viceo was the one with Simon Pegg where he changed his memory,.....here is a link to the video and he explains how he does it afterward.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=befugtgikMg
Check out his stuff if your not familiar stuff. Check out his "anchors" and his "handshake induction"
Later,..
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Secular forum reacts to FDS "new light"
by cedars init's a short discussion, but it's interesting to see an outsider's perspective on the "new light.".
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=251464.
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Cedars,
I hope you cover the power grab that Rutherford pulled off when the "old man died" And how this could have been possibly paralleled in the first century prelude to the apostles being Chosen similarily.
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Son returned home nad full speed ahead with all the jw stuff...
by marriedtoajw inas i stated in my last post, my son, age 21 visited his jw grandparents and aunt and uncle in another state.
when he left, about 2 months ago, he wasn't sure if he wanted to come back at all or just stay and live with them.
right before leaving, he quit his part time job, dropped out of school, mid quarter and left to go to a comic book convention with his jw uncle.
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I think the core problem jws had, have, is that we did not have any critical thinking skills or we did not process the decision whether or not to join the jws through the critical thinking blender, as it were.
Is there a way to ask your son if he could help you grasp a new teaching skill set that you are working on becoming proficient at, that being how to think critically.
Possibly there is a major decision in your life that you could use as a reason to be interested in looking into this prior to deciding.
Maybe you could see if he could research it alone and get back with you about it, not sure the best way to get him involved but I do think that unless someone knows how to think critically it is more difficult to make that leap out of the jws.
Check out YouTube for some great videos on "critical thinking"
Also highly recommend Stevens Hassans Combatting cult mind control as it will let you know what the jws are doing to him to bring him in deeper.
You can also consult with Mr Hassan via phone and he can take all your sons info etc what he is experiencing and give you the best advice on how to proceed. 15 months ago I did it for my wife, she is out with me now. The initial charge was 100 us for 45 minutes and you get the info about your son to him in advance so he can look it over before getting on the phone with you.
The bad thing about trying to get someone out of a cult is that if you say the wrong thing you can drive them in a little deeper so I think that everything you can do to prepare is worth it's weight in gold.
Give it a thought and hope all goes well with you and your family.
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A Message to Active Elders Lurking on JWN
by 00DAD inthere are really only a couple of reasons an active elder would be lurking here on jwn.. .
[if !supportlists]i. your ever growing doubts about the organization have led you here, or.
[if !supportlists]ii.
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00dad,
I hope you didn't mind me throwing that in there, your post inspired me!
I enjoyed your original post as it is a legitimate question. Maybe playing like they are doing their work looking for lost sheep is their way of dealing with the dissonance. Possibly?
I wonder if they have any special provision from the top of the pyramid to do this? I would find that hard to believe as they are already having issues keeping the ones they have now.
Anyway, hope I did not step on any toes,..
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let's play Dear God
by Tater-T indear god, if you are a god as your followers claim you to be, why do you have to operate in the constraints of spacetime?
dear god, why did you have to sacrifice yourself to yourself to save your creation that you made with flaws?.
dear god, why do you not do anything about your old men in robes raping little boys?
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Dear God,.
Why did you approve of the experiment of letting man rule himself to prove to the spirit creatures that he could not do it then tamper with the experiment when he messed them up real bad at the tower of bable, now we still don't know of they could have pulled it off.
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I've made an appointment to see the head teacher about God and creation
by not bitter ina bit of background.
my 6 year old talks about god an awful lot.
well more than i'm comfortable with.
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I would purchase Richard Dawkins book " The Magic of Reality" as it takes several topics and shows how man from varying cultures from our past believed things were created or myths were started etc then he goes forward and explains how we know these things to not be true today.
Very good book for children as it shows that we should have evidence to believe something.
Check a review of the book on youtube explaining some of the features of the book.
Also comes as a iPad app if you have that device. Well worth the price, pennies on the dollar for your child's future.
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A Message to Active Elders Lurking on JWN
by 00DAD inthere are really only a couple of reasons an active elder would be lurking here on jwn.. .
[if !supportlists]i. your ever growing doubts about the organization have led you here, or.
[if !supportlists]ii.
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And or if you find yourself in category 2 then realize that you REALLY don't fully believe that the GB has a direct link to Jehovah as their counsel to not enter these type of site do not really apply to YOU. What about the angle standing behind you now that is reporting all your deeds to Jehovah's via his proper channel. You REALLY,......TRULY don't believe that either do you?
Lets get real here. If you mentally need this reason to be here to peruse the site then keep telling yourself this so that you can maintain your sanity we get it, we understand the phobias that you are having to deal with, been there myself. I will say that as you start reading some of the threads about the UN NGO debacle at jwfacts.com and other pages there that strike your fancy you should eventually if you have any critical thinking skills left see the WTBTS for whT it is, a high control group aka cult.
We are the same people that once you you'll have welcomed into your house or you ours but with one major difference that being that our BS meter was set a bit higher than yours was and have just preceded you in waking up and doing the right thing by researching our doubts and if those doubts would have led us to the conclusion that the WTBTS was correct, we would not be here.
So now that you have been able to get your foot in the door, please do thorough research this time, damn what it leads to just be honest, truly honest with yourself regardless how pleasing the carrot looks. Because it it is not true, the carrot is not true.
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Hey lottalola,..
Sorry to hear that about your husband.
Did you and the hubby do any research about the history, inner workings to of the WTBTS while you we're out?
If not, en I would try to fast track some research such as jwfacts.com , Captives of a Concept by Don Cameron, Combatting Cult Mind Control by Steven Hassan, Crisis of Conscience by Raymond Franz
They are well worth the money in my opinion.
And of course you may already know about these but thought they were worth mentioning.
He's being love bombed really heavy right now.
NJY