more ramblings from the recently concluded elders' school.. see the op on this thread for background: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/242491/5/wt-elders-school-the-wts-has-progressed-from-just-plain-stupid-to-dangerously-stupid.
in part of the video mentioned above showing the "goofus" elder trying to handle the situation with the crying sister:.
the "goofus" elder went into the kingdom hall library alone with the sister when she left the auditorium.. you could hear literal, audible, gasps from the 100 or so elders watching the video.. a few moments later, as the sister was crying, "goofus" put out his hand and touched the sister's hand.. again, literal, loud, audible gasps from the audience.. they darkened the room while the video was playing so i couldn't see him, but i have to imagine the co was quite pleased that the audience grasped the "mistakes" that elder goofus was making.. .
Go and google "saltwater clam" images.
But seriously, someone should put a small camera in a book bag and do some practice with it to see how to set it up so that you could record the entire video. You know that the Holy Spirit will not hender you.
Just freaking do it and we can blur out any elder faces later.
I would pay money for this. Come on, think about it?
NJY
something has just occured to me this morning while taking a shower.
i think it might be pretty obvious to others but for some reason it just hit me today suddenly.
religion for many is just a donkey and a carrot.
Being a non believer, I feel, has made me more moral than before. I want to do my part to help "push" the human race forward.
A Human race is a terrible thing to waste.
We are the ones responsible for our own actions and we need to act responsibly in those matters as taking the fork in the road with the idea that their is a supreme being that will handle all this in the end may is repugnant, embarrassing and non responsible to me as a human.
NJY
more ramblings from the recently concluded elders' school.. see the op on this thread for background: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/242491/5/wt-elders-school-the-wts-has-progressed-from-just-plain-stupid-to-dangerously-stupid.
in part of the video mentioned above showing the "goofus" elder trying to handle the situation with the crying sister:.
the "goofus" elder went into the kingdom hall library alone with the sister when she left the auditorium.. you could hear literal, audible, gasps from the 100 or so elders watching the video.. a few moments later, as the sister was crying, "goofus" put out his hand and touched the sister's hand.. again, literal, loud, audible gasps from the audience.. they darkened the room while the video was playing so i couldn't see him, but i have to imagine the co was quite pleased that the audience grasped the "mistakes" that elder goofus was making.. .
He said
"he had gone to sports bar alone to eat dinner, a "worldly girl" had asked to join him, after a few drinks she asked him to "come to her place to see her aquarium", and then she "seduced" him."
And the brother commented "She did not say that exactly, she asked if I wanted to come back and see her "Salt Water Clam" and I mistook that to meen her Salt Water Aquarium, my bad.
NJY
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my wife and i were invited to dinner by a coworker of hers.
Tell her that they are ALL potential studies and that she will hear about it on her part of the assembly.
NJY
share with us memories of the bizarre, funny, strange, what you hated, what you miss...we all have them.
(question..why the big to do between terms- convention and assembly .
I would think it would be funny to bring some "buck lure" into a DC or CA and drop it under the stands somehow. People would have to leave the place as the smell is too strong to endure for most.
Anyone,.. anyone?
NJY
if jehovah can read hearts then why did he test abraham by ordering him to kill his son ?.
Here is a link to a youtube video (animation) showing how ludicrous this teat is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYvcc8ui3CM
Don't know how to imbed it properly.
NJY
watch this video, posted on jw.org.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jjvxobvi5a.
here is my article in response.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/is-watchtower-60-million-away-from-liquidation.
looking forward to hearing your thoughts!.
Great article on your site.
Just below the WTBTS video you have a "my" and think you meant a "by" FYI
I would imagine that with all the varying corporations that they kept the USA entities out of the thought about being damaged to the point where it would put them it of business. I think that they would have used just the France corporations. No evidence here but making an assumption based on how they
would work.
NJY
my father had me go with him to do a study, and the guy looked like he's a pretty smart guy, and he was asking legitimate questions that i had my own answers to, but of course i couldn't say them.. i'm wondering if anyone has successfully been able to convince/warn anyone that they're getting sucked into a cult.
i wanted to just secretly slip him a note, but i'm always scared to do that from fear of the person throwing me under the bus.
then i got the idea of sending him a text message from a number that can't be traced back to me.
If you do get to send a pamphlet of some other contact, be sure to add that you are having to contact them under an "alias" due to this being a High Control Group. Then let them know that if the cult members found out who sent the info to him that you would be shunned by family and friends.
I would send some info about Steven Hassans site that shows the Jw are listed as a high control group and also some info about the BITE model.
I would opt for a special email account so that he can ask questions and get answers back and forth where as a pamphlet would be more one way with no way to share more info.
Let us know what you decide to do as I always wanted to be involved with getting someone out like.
NJY
jw's claim to be god-fearing, faithful, spiritual people with a unique special personal relationship with god (jehovah).. yet, so much of what they do is just fro show, an outward appearance of holiness and faithfulness:.
) shunning- an organization-sanctioned shunning policy publicly "outs" the shunned and puts pressure on members to cary out the shunning.
why is this necessary if they truly have faith in god and that he sees all and nothing is hidden from his view?
I think that the ration is 1/10 of 1% makes it that much funnier.
NJY
yeah...it was wrong.
i got upset and blurted this truth.
seems kinda screwy that telling someone a truth could be wrong.
Phrases that might be said,
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new light
independent thinking
imperfect men but a perfect organization
The world or worldly
the truth
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others may be able to add more
I would also try to look this thread up and read #6 of the first post regarding loaded language and thought stopping phrases.
NJY
