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2012 Convention Releases

by garlic81 in

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post 51 of 52. since 3/27/2009.

google_ad_section_start i can't verify the authenticity of this information as i have not personally attended.

however this is what is posted on another site.. friday:.

dropoffyourkeylee

Since any substantial release is always done by Saturday, I can presume that Fatherless's comments are correct.

I would concur that the NWT needs a major revision, but I doubt we will see one any time soon.

Reason 1, the cost. Every Jw would want/need a copy of the new edition, and the Bible is one of the more expensive to produce. The WT society is too short of cash to produce a translation (and then to re-translate to other languages) in 7 million copies

Reason 2, the Society doesn't have anyone qualified to revise the translation. Wait a minute , they never have had any one qualified to produce a credible translation in the first place... never mind

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Any rumors about any releases? - Conventions start in 12 days

by Gayle in

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conventions start may 18 according to jw.org.. hopefully, there will drops in baptisms as reported from 2011. unfortunately, there will be the poor kids..

dropoffyourkeylee

I think the biggest factor is that of cost. Over the years since the donation arrangement, especially after '08, the releases have gotten fewer, leaner, and cheaper. I don't expect anything this time over 32 pages, maybe a DVD. If there is a book, it will be a paperback 192 pager at most.

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2005 - The year the Society began its decline (without anyone noticing)!

by cedars in

i've just finished an article for randy over on freeminds.org, which i've submitted to him for review.

hopefully it should be online soon, so please keep checking!.

the article discusses the fact that the watch tower society is already in decline, and suggests the year 2005 as the turning point.

dropoffyourkeylee

jws, I disagree. With the pentration of high speed access and the ubiquity of internet access and computer technology, more people, more numbers of people are online.

I agree with Baltar on this one. The availability of information at home on the internet is major. I remember going into a Christian book store in the 80's and asking for Crisis of Conscience. The lady went into their back room and found a copy and said, "The Lord must have wanted you to have this, as it is the only one we have." I still remember the cold sweat I broke into as I started to read it when I got in the car. I sat there in the car for about an hour. The point is that it was hard to get the anti-JW information back then... the internet has changed everything. The Society's ability to propogandize has diminished with the ubiquity of internet access.

On the flip side, there is also a potential for harm, as some extreme ideas that would never have reached the light of day have found victims thru the internet... think Heavens Gate in the 90's and that idiot from Norway that has been on the news recently

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Cedar's 'Why The Watch Tower Society Is Already In Decline"

by Dogpatch in

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why the watch tower society is already in decline.

good article, cedars.. http://www.freeminds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3236:why-the-watch-tower-society-is-already-in-decline&catid=31:governing-body&itemid=346.

it's also on the front page of freeminds.org.

dropoffyourkeylee

Nice job Cedars, keep it up.

I think a 'tipping point' for the Witnesses, at least in the US, is when the number of ex-Witnesses ( or those who only associate thru family, but do not believe) exceeded the number of Witnesses. The Witnesses often cite the number of Memorial attenders as people who are 'waiting in the wings', interested people from the street. In reality, the vast majority of these Memorial attenders are former Witnesses, or family members who have come because of family considerations. They do not believe and will never believe. At the point when there are so many people who know enough about the religion to know that it is bull****, the religion has very limited growth potential.

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Assembly Hall in Indianapolis for sale - $2,895,000

by TJ Curioso in

you can see this here:.

http://image.exct.net/lib/fef71176746c00/d/2/1201%20n%20delaware%20st%204%20pg.pdf.

dropoffyourkeylee

Why does it look like a government building?

Not typical cookie cutter Witness architecture to be sure.

I think I read that this building in Indianapolis was built in about 1910 by a religious organization, I forget which one. The Witnesses refurbished it. So being a historic building (also in a good location), they may get a lot of money for it.

The plans announced last summer were that the Indianapolis, IN and London Ohio assembly halls would both be sold and a new 3000 seater built near Cincinnati. So far, beyond collecting money, there has been nothing done except put the for sale sign out in front of the building in Indy. They have not even purchased any land in the Cincy area yet. The whole deal is starting to sound fishy

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Watchtower service bags deemed suspicious in Ohio and destroyed by police!

by dropoffyourkeylee in

this is too funny.

this article appeared in a columbus ohio news website today:.

suspicious bags found in northeast columbus.

dropoffyourkeylee

This is too funny. This article appeared in a Columbus Ohio news website today:

Suspicious Bags Found in Northeast Columbus

COLUMBUS -- Several stores were evacuated Thursday after a suspicious briefcase and laptop bag were discovered at a shopping plaza.

The items were discovered next to a parked car. The Giant Eagle and other stores at Stelzer and McCutceon Roads were evacuated.

Members of the Columbus Bomb Squad were called to the scene to inspect the bags.

Officers say the briefcase contained books. The contents of the laptop bag have not been revealed.

No one was hurt.

What isn't said is that the two bags contained Watchtower literature. A sister apparently had her car broken into and the thieves, after breaking the window, took the two bags, one of which looked like a laptop computer bag, but both bags were service bags full of literature. Once they learned that they were only books they discarded the bags at a shopping center parking lot. The sister, after calling the police, said "The bomb squad had to destroy our service bags, but at least we can get the books back." Geez, thanks!

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New Rumor: Downsizing Circuits/Assemblies

by metatron in

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heard a new rumor that:.

the borg is going to phase out big district assemblies - so they can fit 'em in assembly halls.. they will reduce the size of circuits.

they will synchronize c.o.

dropoffyourkeylee

This is no secret, as the announce plans here (southwest Ohio, USA) are that there will be a 3000 seat assembly hall will be built that will be used in summer months for district conventions.... it follows that there would be a re-assignment of congregations and circuits to have smaller district conventions.... nothing notable here... hardly worth mentioning

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Will Embracing the Internet lead to Increased Growth for the Watchtower?

by jwfacts in

more important than the reduction in the size of the new magazine is that the watchtower will be actively promoting its website and encouraging people use it to download magazines.

my concern is that this has the potential to lead to an increase in growth for the watchtower.. the door-to-door preaching work has been one of the most inefficient means imaginable to gain converts, and done little more than tie up the time of active jws.

now, by directing people to the internet, witnesses can spread their message at an alarming rate for little cost.. do you feel that this has the potential to lead to a surge in growth of jehovah's witnesses?

dropoffyourkeylee

My take is that the only reason they are directing Witnesses to the internet is so they will print out their own copies of the WT (and KM, until they get the bright idea to include the KM in the last 4 pages of the study WT). It's all driven by cost. I think the Society is really hurting for cash.

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My Lord This Girl Is Hot, Somebody Please Tell Me Her Name!!!

by Philadelphia Ponos in

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i hate to start a "no room for george" type thread but i really need to no the name of this girl.. .

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these sences are from the past episode of spartacus that aired on friday on starz..

dropoffyourkeylee

A nice looking lady, I'd like to be friends with, yeah sure. Hot? Sorry, to each his own.

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Defenders of Pastor Russell speak out on FREE MINDS' debunk

by Terry in

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http://ctrussell.wordpress.com/2012/03/18/examining-freeminds-discover-the-legacy/#comment-1584.

an article i wrote on charles taze russell, j.f.rutherford and fred franz for freeminds asserted that they were not professionals in their field.

because they took the illegitimate course of self-proficiency.

dropoffyourkeylee

This statement:

"Actually, Russell by-passed all of man’s theology to study the true foundation of the Christian religion, that is, that which is revealed in the Bible itself"

is simply not true, and never was. Russell was a product of his times and inherited the theology he was exposed to, most notably the Adventist groups that grew out of the Millerites of the 1840's. Out of curiosity a number of years ago I purchased some books from one of the Second Adventist groups, and was a bit surprised to read nearly identical statements as the above concerning William Miller. He supposedly used just the Bible and the concordance to determine what the Bible taught on every subject, without respect to previously conceived doctrine.

Russell must have been very charismatic in person, but I think his success resulted from his writing skill, which was quite good. For instance, the Divine Plan was easy to read and made sense to the readers of the time period. Compare the Divine Plan to, say, the Three Worlds <snore>, which was written by Barbour and there is no comparison.