My take is that the only reason they are directing Witnesses to the internet is so they will print out their own copies of the WT (and KM, until they get the bright idea to include the KM in the last 4 pages of the study WT). It's all driven by cost. I think the Society is really hurting for cash.
dropoffyourkeylee
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Will Embracing the Internet lead to Increased Growth for the Watchtower?
by jwfacts inmore important than the reduction in the size of the new magazine is that the watchtower will be actively promoting its website and encouraging people use it to download magazines.
my concern is that this has the potential to lead to an increase in growth for the watchtower.. the door-to-door preaching work has been one of the most inefficient means imaginable to gain converts, and done little more than tie up the time of active jws.
now, by directing people to the internet, witnesses can spread their message at an alarming rate for little cost.. do you feel that this has the potential to lead to a surge in growth of jehovah's witnesses?
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My Lord This Girl Is Hot, Somebody Please Tell Me Her Name!!!
by Philadelphia Ponos ini hate to start a "no room for george" type thread but i really need to no the name of this girl.. .
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these sences are from the past episode of spartacus that aired on friday on starz..
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dropoffyourkeylee
A nice looking lady, I'd like to be friends with, yeah sure. Hot? Sorry, to each his own.
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Defenders of Pastor Russell speak out on FREE MINDS' debunk
by Terry inhttp://ctrussell.wordpress.com/2012/03/18/examining-freeminds-discover-the-legacy/#comment-1584.
an article i wrote on charles taze russell, j.f.rutherford and fred franz for freeminds asserted that they were not professionals in their field.
because they took the illegitimate course of self-proficiency.
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dropoffyourkeylee
This statement:
"Actually, Russell by-passed all of man’s theology to study the true foundation of the Christian religion, that is, that which is revealed in the Bible itself"
is simply not true, and never was. Russell was a product of his times and inherited the theology he was exposed to, most notably the Adventist groups that grew out of the Millerites of the 1840's. Out of curiosity a number of years ago I purchased some books from one of the Second Adventist groups, and was a bit surprised to read nearly identical statements as the above concerning William Miller. He supposedly used just the Bible and the concordance to determine what the Bible taught on every subject, without respect to previously conceived doctrine.
Russell must have been very charismatic in person, but I think his success resulted from his writing skill, which was quite good. For instance, the Divine Plan was easy to read and made sense to the readers of the time period. Compare the Divine Plan to, say, the Three Worlds <snore>, which was written by Barbour and there is no comparison.
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Another WT property for sale, from the Indianapolis Star
by insearchoftruth inthere's also the assembly of jehovah's witnesses, 1201 n. delaware st. it's a majestic, century-old house of god, fronted by enormous stone pillars that would give samson pause.. .
it was built in 1912 by christian scientists who, when they moved on, sold it to baptists.
the baptists moved on in the 1970s and sold it to jehovah's witnesses.
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dropoffyourkeylee
This has been commented on before, as it was planned last year to sell the Indianapolis and London Ohio assembly halls:
To my knowledge the assembly hall in London Ohio is not for sale yet, nor has there been a purchase of land for the 3000-seat assembly hall that will be in the Cincinnati Ohio area
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[MP3] The District Conventions from the 1950s to the 2010s
by possible-san inwell, if you click the "theme" of each talk, you can listen to the talk by mp3.. in particular, with respect to the mp3s of the dcs in 2010 and 2011, you can listen to most of them.. .
http://www.centralprint.net/jwtalks/dc/conventions.html.
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dropoffyourkeylee
Thanks for posting this, brings back a lot of memories, not all good.
One observation that I find incredible. For a couple of the conventions it gives the attendance and number baptized:
1953 , attendance 126,387, baptisms 4640 ; 3.7% of attendees getting baptized
1958 attendance 118463 (not sure if this was the entire attendance or not) , baptisms 7136 ; 6.0%
Odd, the last small circuit assembly I saw had attendance of 750, baptisms 1 ; 0.13%
Baptisms are at a dead crawl compared to the old days. How things have changed.
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Awake openly mocked on website...
by Tuesday inhttp://blogs.sfweekly.com/exhibitionist/2012/02/5_hilarious_social_media_image.php.
this is actually not a former witness or anything, this is a cracked style article.
i think it's pretty funny, i think it's evidence that the wt is not going to be around forever.
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dropoffyourkeylee
Hilarious, whoever wrote this article, thanks.
Another site the WT is openly mocked (along with just about everything else imaginable) is the uncyclopedia:
check this out:
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Suicide - How many do you know within the JWs
by Lady Lee inthw wts likes to play games with their statistics.
one interesting but truly tragic is the number of jwhovah's witnesses who commit suicie.. now i suspect that if a person commits suicide shortly before or after they are disfellowshipped then the elders would say that person wasn't a witness or that they had done something so terrible that they were too guilty to admit it and by their action of committing suicide they pretty much declared they were no longer a jw.. yup fancy talk to make sure any crap didn't fall on them.. so my question.. do you know of cases like this?
if so then can you answer a few more questions.. had this person been dfed or in real danger of being dfed or whatever the equivalent is if they were never baptized?.
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dropoffyourkeylee
There was another thread a few months ago that I contributed to. I am going to repeat the same post, as I don't have the heart to add anything just now:
This subject has concerned me greatly, as I have lost 3 friends, 2 of them dear friends who I miss greatly, to suicide in the past few years. I have come to believe that the ridiculous policies and characteristics of the religion itself were largely responsible. This has occurred in two adjoining congregations located about 40 miles apart in rural midwest US, each with about 100-120 publishers.
The first was in 2007-2008. Elder and wife, mid 50's, children at the age of moving out, wanted to go into the Spanish speaking work. The Society and Witness culture - you know what I am talking about- influenced them to sell their house and serve temporarily in the Dominican Republic, with the idea of immersing themselves in the language to learn it better. After 6 months they returned broke and he was literally burned out, as they had him giving virtually every meeting part, in Spanish yet. Also he had been taking an anti-depressant, and without health insurance he decided he could do without it. He had returned to the home congregation for a few months before they were going to serve in a Spanish speaking congregation in the US southeast. He killed himself on a cold weekday afternoon in March. I think about him virtually every day, as he was at my house in the weeks before they went to the DR, and I got the feeling he wanted to talk about it, but I didn't take the time to sit down with him. It haunts me to this day and I have since resolved to never again let such an opportunity pass. He was an active elder in good standing at the time of his death.
The second was in 2009. A sister with a great deal of intelligence and drive, was unhappy with being a 'Stepford' witness wife... she liked to work and was of the type who should have gone to college and find a measure of fulfilment in a career. Her teenage son was disfellowshipped. She wanted desperately to move out of the area and start something different. She got an appartment 80 miles away and separated from her husband. She overdosed in the spring of '09. She was not actively associating at the time, but was not disfellowshipped. She was a dear friend and I thought the world of her.
The third was in 2010. An active ministerial servant, married with young children, took his own life. Depression over losing his job, starting a different job with lower pay, prospect of losing his house, perhaps other reasons I do not know about, as I did not know him really well.
I have not given any names or exact locations because, in agreement with the previous poster, we need to think about the surviving family and children, who would be pained to see their loved one's name pop up on a google search in this context.
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Southwest Ohio Assembly Fund
by 2tone inthere was an article awhile back that talked about the london, ohio and indianapolis, indiana assembly being sold.
there are going to build a new in southwest ohio near cincinatti.. the indianapolis isnt sold.
i just drove by it today and its got a for sale sign on it.
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dropoffyourkeylee
The London Assembly hall is likewise still unsold and being used as usual. There is no for sale sign there, yet.
The land for the new assembly hall planned near Cincinnati Ohio has not been purchased. There is no word yet that any purchase of land is imminent, nor has a specific site been chosen yet.
As far as the 'fund' is concerned, I highly doubt there is any specific fund set aside for this. The money received is most probably just another donation to the Society.
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The Children of Sanchez - Chuck Mangione
by cofty inmy best mate when i was a teen jw introduced me to music beyond the pop charts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzan_a1tzj4.
"take the food from hungry children, they won't cry.
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dropoffyourkeylee
I bought this album when it was newly released... haven't seen either the album or the record player since the early 80's. Even if I found the record I wouldn't have a way to play it anymore. A great recording, though - good times
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Whistleblower Watchtowers Dump
by Marvin Shilmer inwhistleblower watchtowers dump.
today i added a new article to my blog sharing the whistleblowers letter to new yorks department of environmental conservation (dec) disclosing watchtowers pollution sites and incidents related to it.
my article is titled whistleblower watchtowers dump and is available at: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2011/12/whistleblower-watchtowers-dump.html.
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dropoffyourkeylee
I don't think this problem will just go away, especially if there is as much contamination as is suggested by the comments on this site. The people in the Wallkill watershed are serious about water quality. For instance look at this website:
http://www.hudsonwatershed.org/plans09/wallkill.pdf
And this report is interesting, it seems to be a report produced by the Society to satisfy the local authorities concerning impact of changes at Wallkill.
http://www.timmillerassociates.com/publicreview/shawangunk/Watchtower_Farms_Improvements_FEIS.pdf