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  Is the Borg winding down printing altogether?

  by slimboyfat in

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  the thread about magazines stopping distribution in india reminded me of a recent conversation.

  a local brother said he asked for a copy of the new organisation book for publishers.

  the elder told the brother to print it out if he wanted a physical copy.

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  Does anyone remember in the mid 1990s (before the internet was a significant presence) that the Watchtower purchased and installed this super high-speed printer at Wallkill. This was a big deal and was the reason for a lot of activity at the time. From what I recall it was big and expensive and was a major part of the corporate strategy.

  I have often wondered what they did with that printer. And, why the holy spirit did not direct them to be proactive related to the pending paradigm shift in communication.
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  Samuel Herd's statement about donations and Cialdini's social proof

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  samuel herd made a statement a few weeks ago about halting construction work, laying off bethel workers and reducing printing output: severe cutbacks all round.

  he said, like the head of a household, the gb has to make sure the organisation is living within its means.

  but he added a very careful phrase, something like: "be assured brothers these measures have not been taken as a result of any lack of financial support on your part.

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  Interesting idea. I did a little research on google scholar on Cialdini’s principles of social influence.

  I think you could find examples of a few of these influence strategies in Herd’s talk.

  Cialdini (2009) outlined six principles of social influence routinely employed to sway potential consumers:

  · Reciprocity (people feel obligated to comply with those who give them gifts),

  · Liking (people say yes to those they like),

  · Scarcity (people differentially value items they believe are scarce or dwindling in supply),

  · Social Proof (people look to the behavior of similar others when they are unsure how to choose),

  · Authority (people defer to the advice of experts and those in power), and

  · Commitment & Consistency (people behave consistently with their commitments).
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  Too Much Discontent in the Congregation Part 2

  by Simon Templar in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  here is part 2..

  so you will have some understanding of the boe i will reference in future posts, the following is who they are:.

  the coordinator.

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  NewYork44M

  Sound inviting?

  You have almost convinced me to go back. This sounds like a reality TV show. You should start charging admission.
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  "super-pioneer" (attempted "funny" parody video..)

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. entertainment

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg-j3kuw9ii.

  oh dear.......

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  I have see a few funny parodies. Unfortunately that was not one of them.
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  Pop Trivia

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  so many serious topics lately ... so for anyone who wants a break, it's trivia time and the subject is pop music.. which act is the only one to have a top 100 hit both before, during and after the beatles had theirs?.

  no googling.

  if you guess, you also need to add a trivia question for others to answer..

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  Elvis - a wild guess.
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  JW Broadcasting—November 2015

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i09wzqof4zi.

  ha!

  that is supposed to make people go back?!

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  Bohm, it looks like he has gained a few pounds since seeing him last.

  Life must be good - he brings a who new meaning to "living large."
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  Handing out candy

  by mikeypants in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  growing up my parents would barricade our home off by parking vehicles bumper to bumper - you would have to crawl under the cars or over the bumpers to get to our door.

  also, we would turn off all the lights and hide in the back room away from the street.. that was the norm for me.

  isnt that insane?

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  We passed out candy last night. I am pretty sure that the act did not increase demon activity in our home - Except that all the clocks got changed during the night!... hmmm. Perhaps the demons are playing a joke on me. Other than that, nothing indicates that our demons were affected one way or another by the candy incident.
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  About 'Regular' Pioneers

  by Gayle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now that district overseers have been deleted, now that bethelites are being devalued and increasingly dismissed, now that special pioneers are being deleted in u.s., and maybe elsewhere gradually.

  who would have ever thought?.

  yet, now what is the value to be a regular pioneer to the org?

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  Keeping people busy is the end game of the Watchtower. Encouraging pioneering does not require additional resources from the part of the Wt. The risk is all with the individual. But a busy witness is a good witness. So, they will continue to encourage this avenue of service. Recognizing full well that it is a waste of time.
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  What more do they need to see?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so bethelites are being decreased...bethel homes even sold off.... special pioneers no longer being funded.. magazines getting smaller and published less frequently.. building work stopping or being reduced.. no large conventions and renting of venues.. etc.... so, money is not coming in anymore to cover the "expenses"??.

  didnt the first ever watchtower said that when this occurs, it would be evidence of god no longer blessing the activity....

  oh, and throughout the years, we have constantly been told that the "growth of the org and the projects such as buildings and contributions" etc were evidence of gods blessing.... .

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  "No large conventions and renting of venues"

  I must have missed this. What is this about?
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  What more do they need to see?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so bethelites are being decreased...bethel homes even sold off.... special pioneers no longer being funded.. magazines getting smaller and published less frequently.. building work stopping or being reduced.. no large conventions and renting of venues.. etc.... so, money is not coming in anymore to cover the "expenses"??.

  didnt the first ever watchtower said that when this occurs, it would be evidence of god no longer blessing the activity....

  oh, and throughout the years, we have constantly been told that the "growth of the org and the projects such as buildings and contributions" etc were evidence of gods blessing.... .

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  NewYork44M

  Getting out is really hard and once you are out there is no guarantee of success. I suspect that there are many "walking dead" within the congregations. These are the ones who no longer believe but don't have the will to leave. I am not saying this as a criticism of these ones - only an observation.

  This is a real problem for the organization. A member does not mean this is a believer. Thus, declining donations, and correspond zeal will drive the organization even further into using desperate measures. Which will drive even more to a state of dis-belief.