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  Call For Children To Get Baptised From CO

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i've been pretty good at not going to meetings lately.

  yesterday i went for the co's last talks.

  older co. his last talk was absolutely shocking.

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  he commanded those to be destroyed "old, men, women, children" so he started talking about how they were accountable. And going to die at Armageddon.

  There are various levels of evil. This is the worst; Scaring children is just plain evil. I can remember as a child wondering, not if I will die at Armageddon, but how. The burden that I suffered as a small child growing up as a JW is not something that anyone should have to bear. I wish I believed in hell - because then I could wish your CO and everyone like him an eternity of torment.
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  Bethel Status Update - Insider Information

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have some updates and new information on the downsizing in bethel.

  25% of all bethelites around the world will be sent home.

  in the us over 1,000 will be sent home.

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  A 25% RIF is significant. Makes you wonder why they even need all the construction. They could run their business out of someone's basement.
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  TTATT is a process, and it’s going to take time. There are no Short-Cuts.

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i talked to a close friend that served with me as an elder for a few years.

  he allowed me about an hour to explain why 607 is not the correct date for the destruction of ancient jerusalem.

  i showed him all the scriptures needed and i showed him the wt magazines that proved it.

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  Convincing someone that they have lived a lie is important - but that just gets you to the starting point to the rest of your life. My advice is - don't do it unless you are willing to accept the rest of your responsibility.

  Understanding TTATT is just the beginning of a very complicated and HARD process to create meaning to your life. This is why I am reluctant to preach TTATT. Understanding TTATT is easy, the rest is really - really hard. I don't want to be responsible for what happens next. I have my own stinkin' problems. This may be (and is) a very selfish perspective. But I don't want to be responsible for what happens after they learn TTATT.

  Those well meaning people who were so happy to convince me TTATT disappeared immediately after they accomplished their goal. I really don't have warm and fuzzy feelings for these opportunists.
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  One of my JW friends posted this on Facebook. Totally cringeworthy!

  by Divergent in

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  Just remember, even if they are truly happy they are still following a lie. In the end they will have a wasted life.
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  One of my JW friends posted this on Facebook. Totally cringeworthy!

  by Divergent in

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  god bless. As long as their happiness does not infringe on my happiness.
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  Candace Conti

  by Pubsinger in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so we know that wt settled out of court for an undisclosed sum and that presumably there was a 'gagging order' attached to the settlement.. not having really thought about what a 'confidentiality clause' meant before, i assumed in the past that it meant that you weren't allowed to disclose the amount of the settlement or any details about it.

  but from the total and absolute silence once the settlement was made, i can only assume that it is a total gagging order.. how can the courts allow such a restriction to be put on a victim?

  protecting the abusers and allowing the institution to cover up the lengths they go to to avoid admitting their guilt?

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  The win from the perspective of victims is the cumulative incremental wins that take place over a wide range of battles. The CC case was a very big battle, the WT lost on so many levels. This in combination with the RC hearings were the most recent major losses for the WT. I am sure this played into their downsizing strategy.

  The war is not over, but there is no question that Watchtower is in retreat mode.
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  The right to shun - wrong?

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many people are understandably upset and angry at the notion that jws have the right to shun people.

  it seems such an obvious "no brainer" cruel and inhuman thing to do - it must be wrong ... surely?.

  of course we look at things from the perspective of those hurt and harmed by shunning.

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  If they were a tax paying organization they should have a wide range of options in terms of what they teach - or don't.

  Once an organization is sanctioned as a tax-free entity they must abide by specified social norms. As a tax payer, I have no interested in subsidizing bad behavior.
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  Meeting changes - just sad, pathetic

  by sir82 in

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  2. friends

  ok, so let's say you're on the gb.

  for years, you've been getting hundreds of reports from your hired ss agents, er, cos, about poor midweek meeting attendance, people not showing up for talks, crappy teaching from elders, etc.. so, you make the determination - ok!

  here's a couple of choices:.

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  Has there been an official justification for getting rid of the TMS? Isn't this where skills are developed? I always thought this was an important meeting. Have they just abandoned teaching new speakers? Or is this irrelevant in the electronic age?
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  My Mother Died Two Weeks Ago

  by Perry in

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  2. friends

  none of my jehovah's witness relatives called to tell me or my family.

  just found out this morning.

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  I am sorry to hear, on so many levels.
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  Penis Power.

  by StopTheTears in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5gyltr6tii

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  I watched the first few minutes - which are a few minutes that I will never get back.