after seven years we finally got a call from an elder this morning.
he wants to come over and talk to steve (he wouldn't talk to me or give me any message).
this particular elder was from steve's old congregation in austin, texas.
Speaking of putting a Christmas tree at the KH, - how about someone dressing up as good ole' Santa, entering the KH just in time for the last song, and passing out Candy Canes. All the while doing the "ho, ho, ho," Santa act?
I would just love to see them call the cops!
NewLight2
after seven years we finally got a call from an elder this morning.
he wants to come over and talk to steve (he wouldn't talk to me or give me any message).
this particular elder was from steve's old congregation in austin, texas.
JT,
Yes, but I've read lately on this board that the "Now is a bad time" answer will not work any more. They DA you for refusing to meet with them when they call the first time.
NewLight2
its just not supposed to be like this.
i just put my jw husband on a plane to san fran so he can spend the entire holiday week out there, get this, dog sitting his nonjw brothers shitzus while he goes to visit family for christmas.
i told him i was going to miss him...and he replied, well "i wont miss christmas".
LovesDubs,
Is there any way that you and the kids could go visit your family? Of course, I have no idea how far away they live. It was just a thought.
NewLight2
having read the exchanges between rev, bill bowen, and others involved in the silent lambs website, i honestly feel sickened.
i remember when i first started to hear rumblings that "something big" was going down regarding the society's handling of child abuse.
i was overjoyed because i had first-hand knowledge of several atrocities in this regard and was hoping against all odds that a major upset would force them to change their policies.
Jim Dee,
Who said anything about "replacing" BB?? I think all anyone wants is for him to change his abusive attitude toward others, thats all. The man does NOT have to act like "MR Almighty Elder" and demand total control like he did while he was in the WT Society. His biggest problem is that he still has the JW Elder mindset. That mindset will not accomplish the goal of helping the cause of SL. It will only serve to destroy it.
NewLight2
to those of you who have had the misfortune of receiving mr. bowen's silentlambs newsletter.
unfortunately mr. bowen feels the need to lie to you all, and slander the name of abuse survivors he claims to protect and serve.
a copy of his most recent attack is below my short response.
plmkrzy said:
"But I am, and have been for some time now, convenced he was only interested in what my past could do for him."
"my past could do for him."
That is all BB seems to care about. He never stoped being a gustopo elder. Someone needs to burst his bubble. He wants to control everything and everyone including the media.
NewLight2
i have been associated with the jws all my life, recently turning 50 years old.
i was a true believer, a hard working elder, very zealous for the truth, a pillar in the congregation, and a fine speaker and teacher.
i even served in an extremely difficult foreign land for a while with my family.. i always knew we had our problems, but felt that it was my responsibility to effect change from within.
Here is the link to how Amazing got his family out.
How I helped my Family Leave Jehovah's Witnesses
by Amazing
http://www.freeminds.org/psych/exithelp.htm
My suggestion is to stay in just long enough to get your family out, then do the slow fade. That way you may still be able to get your extended family out. But only you can tell how much staying "in" bothers your conscience now that you know the real truth about the JW's.
NewLight2
if there are any real estate agents out there, or people who know about such matters, i would really appreciate some opinions.... if not, i could really use some plain old sympathy.
just 8 months ago, my mate & i moved over 1000 miles to a new state .
we found a house to rent.
I hear what you are saying about not liking strangers in your house. I had to go through that when I stayed at my Moms home that she was selling, while she went on vacation. Even though it was her home, I still had my stuff laying all over the house that I had to "hide" every time I went to work. Then drag it all out again when I gone back from work. UGH.
I rent, too, and I don't like surprize visits by the management either. They are supposed to give a 24 hr notice, but sometimes the caretakers do not deliver the notices until late that night, so I find it the same day as I'm leaving for work. I scream. I sometimes just keep my private locking system on anyway.
NewLight2
Of The Private Class
to those of you who have had the misfortune of receiving mr. bowen's silentlambs newsletter.
unfortunately mr. bowen feels the need to lie to you all, and slander the name of abuse survivors he claims to protect and serve.
a copy of his most recent attack is below my short response.
Rev,
I might also add that I saw that posts WERE deleted from Bill's Guestbook earlier today. Your FIRST posting about what happened was deleted, so you re-posted it. THAT appearently is when Bill decides to dish-up more crap about you. The guy is just using "Theocratic Warfare" on you. Yup, Bill's still a "Watchtower Man" indeed.
Pay no heed, Rev, just let him have the last word. We ALL know who is telling lies here. (And it is not you, Rev)
NewLight2
i find it incredibly difficult to read between the lines in current threads on bb closing the sl forums and deleting posts etc, it would be helpful to know what is really going on?
its important.
i havent been keeping up with the sl forum.
Is it possible that someone has hijacked Bill's email account and is using it to destory this whole community?
Or
Is Bill just creating a bad situation?
Would SOMEBODY PLEASE get to the bottom of this mess!
NewLight2
in the bible, who are the small flock and who are the great crowed, and what do they have to do with jehovah?
how is the spiritual food distributed to gods people.
what relation does jesus have with the anointed remnant, and who are they?
Ask your brother Who and where the FDS was before CT Russell and the WTBS. Ask him to find something written by the FDS between the Bible and CT Russell. Then ask him how come Jehovah let so many years go by without a visable earthly organization to guide the faithful.
It has been my experience that they will only defer to this answer:
"But I can show you from the BIBLE" without ever realizing that they can't answer the question.
NewLight2
