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  confused, scared..you name it

  by Cyre in

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  hi there..im new to the board.

  i am a coptic orthodox christian right now, and i am good friends with a witness.

  unfortunately, i didnt know enough about my own religion before i started listening to my friend and i am starting to question my faith.

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  Cyre

  These people portray themselves as loving, but when my JW daughter fell in love with a man "not in the truth", none of her family except me(who never joined) would attend the wedding. Not even her own mother. Can you imagine how hurtful that was? It is a mind control cult which does not tolerate differences of opinion. Take your time. Research very carefully before you make up your mind. The JWs will insist that you cut off contact with your family who do not join with you as "bad association".
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  Life After Death.

  by Blueblades in

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  why did jesus speak of a dead man as merely sleeping?does this mean that there is no life after death?that death and sleep are actually one and the same?lazarus himself is silent about this.after having spent four days in the tomb dead, he comes alive,or awakens from sleep.when we really sleep our bodies do not corrupt.they clean house so to speak and we are refreshed for another day of life.however,what about lazarus,his body started to corrupt, for he was indeed dead,yet when jesus resurrected him he was whole, alive again..where was he for four days.

  ?and does the answer to this question answer the question "is there life after death"?

  im not asking about near death experiences.that's a whole other subject.im wondering if the lazarus case was unique in demonstrating jesus' power over death,no matter how long one is dead, for he had resurrected others also.

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  A Guest

  A Course in Miracles is "channeled material". The author is Jesus. I don't know what you would consider him an "expert" in. The use of the world "real" is taken to mean permanent in that work.
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  5-Year Survival Achieved

  by Francois in

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  this week, i have passed the five years marking the removal of a malignant melanoma from my chest.

  lesion 1.15 millimeters.

  axiallia node dissections clear, wide local excisions clear.

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  Congratulations! It couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
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  Can any believer answer this?

  by LucidSky in

  1. watchtower
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  it was the point i decided to become agnostic.

  i found my final stumbling block in my search for god.

  i asked (myself as well as others): why would god create carnivorous animals before sin?

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  Have you considered that it wasn't God who created this earth? That might explain why it is far from perfect. In John 1, it states that it was the Son who created all things. If it was the Son in a separated state that might explain the absense of perfection. When Jesus was being tempted in the wilderness by Satan, Satan offered him all the Kingdoms of the earth. Jesus didn't challenge Satan's right to make the offer. He seemed to understand that it was Satan's territory.
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  ANOTHER underwater city found

  by Nathan Natas in

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  link: http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=2075.

  another underwater city in india.

  underwater bridge .

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  In another book regarding the pyramids at Giza, Hancock postulates that the earth's crust slipped due to the weight of the ice caps which explains the frozen mamouths with undigested grass in their stomachs. He also speculates that the lost continent of Atlantis may have been Antartica which would have been wiped out by such a catastrophe. If true, then mankind is a lot older than the bible would indicate. The melting of the ice caps would certainly raise the water level in the ocean, but not so dramatically and rapidly as decribed in the flood stories.
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  Who is Todd?

  by nilfun in

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  todd was so cool.

  he'd lived in his mom's garage ever since the day he'd announced that he wasn't going to attend kingdom hall anymore.

  he worked at the taco bell on the corner of front street and el rey avenue and he was saving his pennies so he could move out his own.

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  Nathan is right! You should continue to write. Sorry about your friend.
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  Life After Death.

  by Blueblades in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  why did jesus speak of a dead man as merely sleeping?does this mean that there is no life after death?that death and sleep are actually one and the same?lazarus himself is silent about this.after having spent four days in the tomb dead, he comes alive,or awakens from sleep.when we really sleep our bodies do not corrupt.they clean house so to speak and we are refreshed for another day of life.however,what about lazarus,his body started to corrupt, for he was indeed dead,yet when jesus resurrected him he was whole, alive again..where was he for four days.

  ?and does the answer to this question answer the question "is there life after death"?

  im not asking about near death experiences.that's a whole other subject.im wondering if the lazarus case was unique in demonstrating jesus' power over death,no matter how long one is dead, for he had resurrected others also.

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  AGuest

  These thoughts are from A Course in Miracles (Manual for Teachers). There are in direct conflict with the convoluted thoughts in the bible.

  "The 'reality' of death is firmly rooted in the belief that God's Son is a body. And if God created bodies, death would indeed be real. But God would not be loving. There is no point at which the contrast between the perception of the real world and that of the world of illusions becomes more sharply evident. Death is indeed the death of God, if He is Love. And now His Own creation must stand in fear of Him. He is not Father, but destroyer. He is not Creator, but avenger. Terrible His Thoughts and fearful His image. To look on His creations is to die. "

  "'And the last to be overcome will be death'. Of course! Without the idea of death there is no world. All dreams will end with this one. This is salvations's final goal; the end of all illusions. And in death are all illusions born. What can be born of death and still have life? But what is born of God and still can die? The inconsistencies, the compromises and the rituals the world fosters in its vain attempts to cling to death and yet to think love real are mindless magic, ineffectual and meaningless. God is, and in Him all created things must be eternal. Do you not see that otherwise He has an opposite, and fear would be as real as love?"

  The bottom line is this: If God is real, there is no death. If death is real, there is no God! There is either a God of fear or one of Love. In this there can be no compromise. Jesus knew this and, in the case of the little girl and Lazarus, the illusion had to respond to his knowledge of the truth.
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  Just found Jehovah or Jehovah found me!!!

  by panduro in

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  2. experiences

  just wanted to let everyone know that you all have a new friend!my name is christopher from verona italy,and even after loosing friends.

  and my girlfriend of ten years over my studying and putting to practice the bibles values,i realise now that it doesn't matter beacuase i am so happy that i found the truth and jehovah loves me!!

  !....i am still going through a changing period but every day is geting better and i will soon be baptized.i always new that there was someting seriously wrong in the world when i was leading a very imoral life,even though i have been succesful in work and have made plenty of money i was never happy but did'nt know what it was until i met a brother..i hope to find lots of new friends here,so please everyone don't hold back!

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  Panduro

  If you stay with this site awhile, I doubt that you will go through with your baptism. This site is for people who have discovered the "truth" about the WTBTS. I hope that you do stay, however, and it will save you years of grief in the future.
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  The unbearable rightness of questioning....

  by SixofNine in

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  " sometimes evidence means.

  true.

  were really true, we ought to see so-and-so.

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  Excellent post! All of us kids need to take this information in.
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  One - sided presentation.

  by Blueblades in

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  one method of argumentation that the wt.society uses of the many that they do use is the "one - sided presentation".this is where contrary evidence is suppressed or ignored.for example:the watchtower jan 15,1991 pages 10 to 15,in the article,"teach publicly and from house to house".quotes from 15 one - sided sources in support of its position or argument.all of those sources are from christendom.i'll just name the sources and you can if you choose,look up the article for yourself.1)priest john allard.2)randolph o.yeager.3)abiel abbot livermore.4)wesleyan bible commentary,vol.4 pages( 642-643).5)scholar joseph addison alexander.6) scholar o.a.hills.7)bible scholar edwin w.rice.8)f.n.peloubet.9)j.glentworth butler.10)scholar e.s.

  young.11)w. b. riley.12)e.m.blaiklock.13)j. herbert kane.14)oscar e.feucht.15)edward caldwell.

  question 16, asks "even writers in christendom make what acknowledgement regarding christians and witnessing?

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  Good Post! Most of those being witnessed to don't have the background, knowledge, or education to challenge the material being presented to them. Those that do will quickly show them the door.