Posts by trailerfitter

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That C word CULT

by Lady Lee in

dear lee week 64 friday.

this is my blog today for freeminds.

thaoulgt i would post it here for you too.. .

Hi there I spent some time understanding the feeling behind what you had written. My wife is heading very quickly to be baptised and I have tried everything to stop her from doing it. Our situation stand now. Teenager is becoming interested in satanism just to upset his mother. I tried not argueing and keeping my opinions to myself ( which doesn't work) to being sweet as pie to our visiting JW guests. None of this works. Whilst being polite and kind and quiet it goes on as normal and the lies are kept on being spread. I hate the WT with a passion.

I read Captive of a Concept which gave me many insights on the WT organisation. We had discussed a few issues about this before only to realise that she was reading off the WT cue card. We got on to the subject of voting today, she will not vote....why? becuase the WT tells her not to.

I asked her if she realised how much of a fight it was to get women the vote. She was aware of Emily Pankhurst throwing herself under a horse. I asked her if she knew the reason why women weren't allowed the vote in the first place.. she wasn't sure. I said it was because of the bible and the fact religion has kept women in a lowly place for centuries. This ideal has kept this abusive ideal for one purpose.... abuse,.... she said the women work from the heart and need to read and follow the bible so they could operate in the world. I said the bible hate women and classed them as second class citzens....this is abuse from a male logical secular stand point. ( taken humanity a long time to realise this).

Because I raised my voice and exppressed my views I have become an abuser of her. She will be now complaining to her JW friends of how evil I am .. I have had enough of it. They always appear to come out as if they are the light and bright ones. I have all but lost my wife in trust, she doesn't come to me any more.

Perhaps I should have realised the power that could be held over some one using the biblical scriptures as a guide for my own gains even if egotistical. I am not like that but instead, being caring,. lost and frustrated about our situation have put myself in the position of being and abusing husband for making her feel uncomfortable.

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An interesting project for someone.

by Slidin Fast in

when reading the publications, or sitting bored out of my skull in the meetings, the same scriptures come up all of the time.

matt 24:45 is quoted so often it hurts my hair roots.. is anyone out there capable of indexing scriptures by frequency of use?

which are the most popular?

trailerfitter

Numbers 21 4-6 god sends snakes to complaining Isrealites many dies. Out of Egypt they ran out of food and water and wanted Jehovah to help...

Mathew 7 9-11 Jesus said.... talking about how kind god is to his children.

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is it wrong to pray to die

by needhelp101 in

trailerfitter

I am sorry saying this,'.please don't think I am heartless but one pair of hands working is worth millions of hand clasped in prayer. Praying my not be effective.

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Snakes = Married

by SnakesInTheTower in

it has been over a month and a half since i have even been on the board, and that really only to ask about gps units (got a tom-tom) and mention the new job.

way too busy with life - post jw now 4 years.. of course, the new job has benefits, health insurance, etc.

(including unlimited use of the company car for personal use and the company pays for the unlimited gas for about a $25/week out of my check -- huge benefit) and this has enabled toni and i to finally after a two year engagement, to get married.

trailerfitter

congradulations. as yours is just starting mine is coming to a close because of the WT doctrines. I lost it with her in an arguement. I told her what I thought of the WT, told her I do not want them coming around here anymore and that was that....she is choosing them over me.

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Wow, this bit of info surprised even me!!!

by LeKook in

i just spoke to a witness friend (has been a witness 25+ years), who said that the elders in her congregation told her that witnesses had better be prepared to begin going door to door, not to announce "good news", but to denounce people who refuse to accept "the trvth".

has anyone else heard about this?

i thought it was a joke at first, but she said no, that's where the elders told her things were headed.

trailerfitter

Does Jehovah know about this tactics change??

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Satan - the master deceiver makes bad look good

by wannabefree in

(sarcasm) jehovah's witnesses have the truth, any good that is done by other religions is a deception of satan to keep people away from the truth as taught exclusively by jehovah's witnesses.

(end sarcasm).

crazy, but that is what jw's believe ... i believed it ... sure, there were times that it caused dissonance ... but i accepted that explanation, you have to in order to think you have the truth, how else can you justify the good done by people of other faiths, sure, you could write off some of it as the natural good that comes from people being created in god's image, but too much good from anything religious must be a tool of satan to distract you from the truth taught exclusively by jehovah's witnesses.. a non-denominational christian church that is relatively new in my area has experienced considerable growth and attracts all kinds of people.

trailerfitter

there is a good history programme on you tube about satan and how the churches used the concept to deceive,torture and murder 60 000 to 200 000 people over 300 years because they were supposedly in league with the devil. This evil thinking should stop in the 21st centrury shouldn't it?

Search the history of the devil 1/5 if you want to watch gives a sensible look at the devil satan and the concepts in the 5 parts split up on you tube ( former TV documentary. Interesting to hear that Jesus apparently was talking about a rubbish dump in Jerulsalem and not about the fire pitys of hell as most christians would fear. ( sorry I do not know how to insert you tube links yet

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In pursuit of my dreams

by fade_away in

jw
friends

"followed dreams reaching higher.....couldn't survive the fall".

so the lyrics of one of my favorite bands say.. .

so i'm about to turn 27 and thanks to the good ol wt teachings of how this evil system of things is trying to corrupt us with satan's higher education, now i'm stuck in a 100+ degree warehouse making crap money handling and shipping heavy packages while following bizarre rules the boss has.

trailerfitter

Jean luc picard............... thank you for the good luck wishes. Life should be extraordinary!!!

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Fingers in the ears tactic

by trailerfitter in

hi again, some of you know my partner is going down the road to the kingdom hall and will be baptised soon.

thanks to those who gave some expert and wonderful advice about this earlier.... i am opposed to the jws message.

i wonder some times if i just agreed to everything all will be okay.

trailerfitter

Hi Glander .. thanks for reply. We already have 2 children and one of those is 6 years old. the other is 18. I'm actually 43 years old!! I have told her to think carefully about our situation and the fact we might not stick around if she decides to devote much time to 'their' missionary work. This, she thinks is her calling.

I cannot talk to her about the issue and how it effects us,... we've tried. The effect from her side she perhaps does not realise. I told her about the blood situation and will be seeking legal advice about my situation with her. The child is okay in the UK as noone can refuse blood for a child however we did agree that she is not to take the child out of the country because of the this.

It is a good sign if you say that she is not confident about her convictions,..it does not appear that way. I know that she also has been complaining about me and my attiude. Perhaps this would not be so bad if she'd talked to some one out of the JW organisation though.

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In pursuit of my dreams

by fade_away in

jw
friends

"followed dreams reaching higher.....couldn't survive the fall".

so the lyrics of one of my favorite bands say.. .

so i'm about to turn 27 and thanks to the good ol wt teachings of how this evil system of things is trying to corrupt us with satan's higher education, now i'm stuck in a 100+ degree warehouse making crap money handling and shipping heavy packages while following bizarre rules the boss has.

trailerfitter

Hi, I am studying and want to become part of the media industry at some point in the future. I study FCP video editing at the moment and will be going on to study corporate video next term. At 43 years old the career change is hard work and very risky but I want to do it instead of being slave to someone elses ideals. From a £30 000 per wage to next to nothing is a hard know for me but I worked out my finances and have gone for it.

I have seen guys on you tube who sell tutorial DVDs on certain subjects, one of my favourite is FINAL CUT KING who is finacing his college tuition fee by selling his DVDS ( they are really just rehashed ideas from others in reality)...............there are 1000 posibilities out there to make money, You should do some research on how others finance their education.

I cannot understand why your education is so expensive but If you can find another way of financing your education then try and look for it...

You are in a unique situation to make a positive contribution to the world by adding your values to your passion which effects others. You can do this in a positive and creative way if you so choose.

If you are unhappy in your life and you want to make a change. You only get one life so live it . ( just have to find a way to finace it.)

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Fingers in the ears tactic

by trailerfitter in

hi again, some of you know my partner is going down the road to the kingdom hall and will be baptised soon.

thanks to those who gave some expert and wonderful advice about this earlier.... i am opposed to the jws message.

i wonder some times if i just agreed to everything all will be okay.

trailerfitter

Hi again, some of you know my partner is going down the road to the Kingdom Hall and will be baptised soon. Thanks to those who gave some expert and wonderful advice about this earlier...

I am opposed to the JWs message. I wonder some times if I just agreed to everything all will be okay. ( like my father does for a quiet life). I can help thinking how unjust some things are so I put up my foolish resistance anyhow.

The darling wife came home yesturday from a meeting with joy about a talk by a guest speaker on famous people who believed in God. Yeah okay Micheal Jackson was a JW at one point and even Charles Darwin was going to be a minister before he decided to become a naturalist. To my amazement she went on the internet to show me what had been written about Abraham Lincoln. Okay yeah,... I study on the internet all the time,...however I raised an issue about using the internet for research, We'd already talked about this some time back. Turns out everything I look up on ther net is distorted lies that has been put on there by Satan influenced people including ex JWs, Everything she look up is all bright and true.... work that one out....(shock).

We even got to the point last night where she put her fingers in her ears to stop listening to me...that is rudeness but is this fingers in the ears a JW tactic? However many folk think the same as myself on the net, I have never actually felt so alone in my thinking as I do now.

When I looked at the FAITH IN ACTION video yesturday ( on my own) I couldn't help but notice how much of a point was made to say how bad other religions are, imeragerye of the banner waving bible students say " RELIGION IS A SNARE AND A RACKET" was very prominent. I am studying TV and film at the moment , this passive form of none random imeragery beliberately put in at certain times in the DVD is very powerfull and in a none verbal form enforces the message.

The WWII issue of the church blessing soliders was madein this DVD.. I personally feel that it was needed to resist Hitler and the horrors he had in store for Europe. The video gives talks from some of the Governing Body members,....stating the jehovah is a fighter, and the JWs are not pacifists ( meaning they were fighting pacifists) . In that case why was it so wrong to bless the troops who gave their lives so people like the WT can print their mush?? Okay yeah,... don't answer that ...it's written in the bible isn't it? The whole DVD was telling folk how much the JWs had suffered and how wondeful they were. Okay, So how about actually tackling issues world povety instead of waiting for your Jehovah to do it all.? They'd rather critise the UN and call them the whore of Babalon instead. Incidently this is how we got onto the internet lies,...I pointed out the the WT had a membership in the UN until they were found out...even after saying that it was in national UK newspapers she wouldn't accept it point blank.

It appears to me that ever base has been covered by bible teachings and the WT policies? I want to stop her bible classes from happening here in our house and tell my wife to take it elsewhere. That though is playing into their hands,...yet again persecution and we wouldn't want to do that in this day and age would we.

Why they cannot see that all other religions are valid to those who want to follow them if they want free speach why do they continue to knock others and then cry they are being the victim when it is turned on them??.....

If you can't beat them join them? No I think not.