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  Sisters running microphones?

  by NikL in

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  2. friends

  so our sunday meeting was on the 25th (christmas) and my active jw wife and i were out of town enjoying some family time with relatives.. apparently there were many others in our congregation that missed as well.

  so few were there in fact that sisters ran the mics.

  (actually it was a sister running one of the two mics) a friend of my wife commented to her about how the brothers just aren't stepping up and it "makes her want to cry.

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  Did the sister handling the microphone have to wear a head covering?

  I am aware of women offering prayer, reading the Watchtower, or even conducting a meeting when qualified males were not present. In these situations head coverings were required.
  
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  JW employing pre-teens to work religious propaganda phonebank

  by oppostate in

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  2. child-abuse

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  what do you think about using pre-teens to work religious propaganda phonebank?.

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  Spoletta: it looks to me as if the kids are just doing a demonstration.

  It looks that way to me too. Maybe something as simple as a demonstration on how to witness to someone who calls you, like a relative - an example of "giving a thorough witness at every opportunity."

  (That is something that, notably, Governing Body members refuse to do, ala Gerritt Losch, who refused to appear in court to testify regarding Watchtower's child protection policies, using the lame excuse that "I don't answer to Watchtower." That would have been a perfect opportunity for the GB to practice what it preaches to JWs, but instead Gerritt Losch passed on the chance to "give a fine witness.")
  
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  JW employing pre-teens to work religious propaganda phonebank

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

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  what do you think about using pre-teens to work religious propaganda phonebank?.

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  Oppostate: Imagine you are a kid and you get some creepy dude on the phone saying nasty things maybe some sex talk from a perv sex offender and then what?

  Easy. Invite him to the Kingdom Hall. He will fit right in and make a great elder some day!. (Just kidding)
  
  
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  New KH being built near where I live

  by A Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  there are two kingdom halls in two parts of the county i live in.

  one is smaller and their are already about to begin work to replace with a new one.. just posting because i noticed posts saying their wasn't new khs being built.

  and i learned this today from someone..

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  A Believer: There are two Kingdom Halls in two parts of the county I live in.

  Can you say what county that is?
  
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  2 bilion income from selling HQ now

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the wts has a tax free income of 2 bilion dollar now by selling the brooklyn hq (beside other recent money schemes).

  were has the money gone?.

  it must be somewere.. g..

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  Sparrowdown: And, not one dollar of it goes towards giving back to humanity.

  That has been a real eye opener to me.
  
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  2 bilion income from selling HQ now

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the wts has a tax free income of 2 bilion dollar now by selling the brooklyn hq (beside other recent money schemes).

  were has the money gone?.

  it must be somewere.. g..

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  No, the GB don't 'live it up' in the style of some televangelists, or even in the style of Judge Rutherford (who would have made a great modern TV preacher), but there is a tremendous amount of money being funneled into the Organization over the last few years

  (Brooklyn property sales, required amounts being donated every month by congregations, congregation bank accounts being drained by headquarters, pleas for donations to support a KH building program that never happens, and accepting credit card donations that Watchtower used to ridicule Churches for.)

  How many billions have they raked in over the last 5 years? It is unprecedented in the Society's history.

  Couple this with all the financial cut-backs.

  (Magazines are almost nothing now, no new books released ever, missionary program cut, special pioneer program cut, District Overseers cut, Bethel workers being sent home, Bethel services such as waiter and laundry are cut, no new KHs being built, and more that I can't remember as I write this).

  Some say law suits are taking it, but they only amount to a few 10s of millions of dollars, which is a drop in the bucket compared to the multi-billion dollar windfall currently taking place.
  

  Where on earth is it all the money going.
  
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  2 bilion income from selling HQ now

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
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  the wts has a tax free income of 2 bilion dollar now by selling the brooklyn hq (beside other recent money schemes).

  were has the money gone?.

  it must be somewere.. g..

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  I, too, would like to see a list of property sales and their prices.

  Early on, news articles said the value of Watchtower properties in Brooklyn were valued at over a billion dollars. Jared Kushner has bought 3 major ones that sold for well over $300 million dollars each, so that's a billion right there, and there were between 30-40 properties that Watchtower owned in total, from single unit dwellings to major factory buildings.

  It's not at all unreasonable that the total, when complete, might exceed $2 billion.

  Is anyone keeping close track?
  
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  Article - Wales - Daily Post: 'Sly' Anglesey Jehovah's Witness preacher jailed for sex with a child

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/sly-anglesey-jehovahs-witness-preacher-12361109.

  dec. 22, 2016 by derek bellis.

  elder, daniel anglesey pleaded guilty at caernarfon crown court and was sent to prison for two years and eight months.

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  D. Arthington, JW elder: Age 46

  His young sex partner: Age 14

  What has this religion come to?

  Cha Ching: It is refreshing to see that this sexual abuse of a 14 year old minor was treated as a crime rather than a sin.

  Yes, that is refreshing. It is sad that you have to be a non-JW to see the episode as a crime and report it.

  Remember the New World scenes in the publications that refer to JWs belief in a paradise earth as a 'refreshing' hope for the future?
  
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  Another "pull the football away just before you can kick it" comment made by Circuit Assembly's special guest, Thomas Chicky

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i started a thread on this guy's comments about building kingdom halls here.. the guy also said this (again, not a word for word quote, but the gist of his comments):.

  "the primary hope of salvation is the resurrection.

  jehovah does not promise anyone that he will survive armageddon.

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  It was a huge campaign in the early 1920s. Note the words "It means what it says," and "It is a fact."

  It even encourages us to "Investigate." It is a shame that JWs today are so unwilling to investigate the true history of their own religion.
  

  
  
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  Another "pull the football away just before you can kick it" comment made by Circuit Assembly's special guest, Thomas Chicky

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
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  i started a thread on this guy's comments about building kingdom halls here.. the guy also said this (again, not a word for word quote, but the gist of his comments):.

  "the primary hope of salvation is the resurrection.

  jehovah does not promise anyone that he will survive armageddon.

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  The words at the bottom, circled in red, are not legible in this small scan, but they read...

  "I want the statement, "Millions Now Living Will Never Die," to be taken literally as it is, in the light of recently fulfilled prophecy & probable Biblical proposition." --J.F. Rutherford