Posts by ScenicViewer

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Hey ya'll! My first post. Please help. In need of advice/comfort.

by Stepford Wife in

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hey ya'll!

i have been lurking for years on this site and others but never had the courage to post anything.

actually i was afraid of posting on an apostate site in the event i was wrong.

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JWDaughter: "With all the changes in that teaching in the last 40 years, I think it best not to say anything. I'm having a tough time keeping up with what they believe and teach on the subject, and I have not read all the upcoming articles yet."

Oh that's good! You never know, New Light could be just around the corner so we all need to be careful what we commit to as JWs. Let's wait and see what future articles tell us.

A new strategy to avoid their questions. Who wants to be the first to try it? It should at least make the elders grin.

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Hey ya'll! My first post. Please help. In need of advice/comfort.

by Stepford Wife in

jw
friends

hey ya'll!

i have been lurking for years on this site and others but never had the courage to post anything.

actually i was afraid of posting on an apostate site in the event i was wrong.

ScenicViewer

EyesOpenHeartBrtoken: I think the big question you need to ask is if your husband's priority is staying an elder. If that is the case, I have seen many elder's wives join what has been coined "the sick wives club". They usually "contract" a nebulous, chronic issue (i.e. Fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, panic disorders, anxiety, headaches, bad back). Your husband can stay an elder and you'll still get invited to social activities.

Now there's a clever angle - for those that can pull it off.

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What I thought CLAM meant , can you think of anymore ?

by smiddy in

for a while there i was confused as to what clam stood for .. ideas that crossed my mind .

christ left a ministry , or meeting .

children`s lives are mine .....( pedo`s in the borg ).

Hey ya'll! My first post. Please help. In need of advice/comfort.

by Stepford Wife in

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friends

hey ya'll!

i have been lurking for years on this site and others but never had the courage to post anything.

actually i was afraid of posting on an apostate site in the event i was wrong.

ScenicViewer

James what could they DF me for? They have no evidence. I committed no sins.

You don't have to commit a sin to be DF'd, you simply have to disagree with a Watchtower concept. The charge would be apostasy.

One of this boards most beloved posters, screen name Mouthy, was DF'd because she didn't accept the Society's teachings about 1914.

This post reveals that she is near death and her active JW daughter won't have anything to do with her even though Grace (Mouthy) committed no sin.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4815095326572544/big-hello-from-mouthy-grace

Some have been able to pull off a meeting with elders with no bad outcome and their fade was successful. Not everyone can do it though. If you decide to go through with meeting with them be very careful and I wish you the best. They really are very sneaky, and probably experienced at drawing information out of people.

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Hey ya'll! My first post. Please help. In need of advice/comfort.

by Stepford Wife in

jw
friends

hey ya'll!

i have been lurking for years on this site and others but never had the courage to post anything.

actually i was afraid of posting on an apostate site in the event i was wrong.

ScenicViewer

I'm getting the feeling I should not meet with them but I want to know why.

Because elders can be sly buzzards. Their meeting with you could easily be the first step to a Judicial Hearing. They are good at asking loaded questions and could easily trap you into saying something you didn't intend.

As pointed out, you have already mentioned to your husband that you don't accept the blood policy, so it's going to be hard to reverse yourself on that. You will either have to lie through your teeth and say things you don't believe to satisfy them, or tell the truth and face consequences.

All of this is done in the name of love and helping someone spiritually. If you are marked or DF'd in the end they will tell themselves they have done the loving thing and you will suffer for it.

Best advice, as given above, is don't get started with them.

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Just a smile? Oh dear...Disney move over...

by stuckinarut2 in

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vrazejqhrui

ScenicViewer

This is Watchtower trying to re-identify itself as a happy, smiling people as opposed to the negative, judgemental people they have gained the reputation of being, condemning everything in sight.

What happened to the concept of 'preaching the good news of the kingdom'? JWs are told to "advertise, advertise, advertise the King and his Kingdom." You can't do that by not saying anything to people.

JWs are looking more and more generic and churchy all the time.

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New Word Coined In April 2016 WT!

by Naoscillator in

and the word is... .

canaanitelike!.

here it is in context, just in case you're curious about how to use this new word.. article: being faithful leads to god's approval.

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Canaanitelike? Words like that are used by Watchtower because itssocultlike.

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Another Trey Bundy Article on Reveal: "Jehovah’s Witnesses leaders say they don’t protect sexual abusers"

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.revealnews.org/blog/24232/.

jehovahs witnesses leaders say they dont protect sexual abusers.

by trey bundy / december 21, 2015 .

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"...the handling of the sin of child abuse by Jehovah’s Witnesses cannot be faulted from a secular point of view.”

I was struck by that remark too. The JW leadership continues to view the sexual molestation of children as simply a sin, not a criminal act. I am a little surprised they would say this in a public document where anyone can read of their lax attitude toward it.

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In the Shadow of Sin-Portuguese documentary

by the girl next door in

https://youtu.be/8ue3--fnsh8.

the portuguese channel tvi in portugal, broadcast this documentary in october 2015 about jehovah's witnesses.

child abuse, shunning, blood transfusions and many other topics were mentioned in this report.the documentary makers asked for a response from the leadership of jehovahs witnesses to the damaging statements made by survivors of child abuse and domestic violence.

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The girl next door, Thank You for this post! I remember this documentary being mentioned a few weeks ago and was hoping there would be a translated version into English.

I am part way through it and it is excellent.

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Is this the earliest WT reference to 1975?

by Splash in

i thought that the 1975 thing started in the mid to late 60's, but it seems the seeds were sown two decades earlier.is this the earliest reference to it?.

18 how many today are awake to the fact that the lord christ jesus, by his resurrection of the faithful bride members that slept in death, is taking his "bride" unto his father's house and the marriage of the lamb has begun' .... they do not say, 'it is a long time yet to the wind-up, and, according to the present understanding of bible chronology, six thousand years of human history will end first in the coming seventies and till then it is a long stretch to serve the lord continuously and undividedly.'.

... they keep their eye and heart on jehovah's kingdom, and not on the time clock.

ScenicViewer

(w44 9/15 p.280 par.28)
They do not say, 'It is a long time yet to the wind-up, and, according to the present understanding of Bible chronology, six thousand years of human history will end first in the coming seventies and till then it is a long stretch to serve the Lord continuously and undividedly.'

Witnesses today will typically deny that 1975 was supposed to be the end of the world as we know it, Armageddon, or anything of a final nature. But notice that in 1944 the Society was referring to the 1970's as the "wind-up."

Wording like that clearly signifies the end.