Posts by messenger

so i start a new topic.. formula 1. great european sport.. now lets see who are the real experts.. no need waiting until the end of the season.. i think michael schumacher in his ferarri will be the champion.. does any one agree.

or disagree as most here do that for a living.. now lets see who are the real experts.. no need waiting until the end of the season.. i think michael schumacher in his ferarri will be the champion.. does any one agree.

messenger

I heard he was a witness and was dating one of the Williams sisters, they say fi they get married Prince will be their best man. Micheal Jackson will be the ring bearer with Larry Graham doing the ceremony. That is just what i heard anyway........

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How much do members of the governing body make?

by Preston in

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just a simple question although i would also like to know if they have any sort of salary, or if there truly is evidence that they do make personal use of the voluntary contributions from the flock.

please understand that i am skeptical and i would like anything that can be baked up.

thank you for any information!

messenger

OK I will give an estimate based on what I have seen and been told by those in the know. I know of specfic occasions where checks of $25,000 were quietly slipped into GB pockets. They were not made out to the WWW you can be sure. Bear in mind the GB have all expenses paid where ever they go and whatever they do. All money comes in without any expenses to take from. In addition, the more you travel the more opportunity you have to gather funds and the higher rank the more people want to be in your good graces. So here are my estimates of GB income according to rank:

1. Gold Member(Ted J. type)

$100,000+ per year

2. Silver Member (Carey B. type)

$50,000+

3. Bronze Member (new guy)

$25,000+

Now what would you do with $100,000 free and clear? Invest of course and those numbers would have to be added to the annual figures above. I think you could safely say all members of the GB are or will be millionares before the new world arrives.

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I am new here!!!

by Sarah in

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i have been reading post after post since january, (when my husband and i quit going to the meetings), just now getting up the nerve to say anything.

you people scare me!!!

there are some intense messages on here.

messenger

Congratulations on joining the thinking class. The tattoo issue is not a DF offense. Nothing is written regarding this issue and no congregation action would be taken. An article about one year ago addressed body piercings as being worldly and a person doing so would not be considered exemplary in the congregation. In that article as I recall the issue of tattoos was avoided for some reason. Zealous elders could perhaps rule it as being a bad example and make a local decision to not use you as a aux pioneer. So unles you are thinking about aux pioneering I do not believe you have much to worry about.

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The Positive Things l Learned Being A JW

by messenger in

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ok, perhaps you may think i have lost it, but i got to thinking of how everyone seems to dwell on the negative aspect of being a jw.

how about a positive approach?

while i never plan to ever be a jw again i can recall some positives that happened along the way, here are a few that come to mind:.

messenger

OK, perhaps you may think I have lost it, but I got to thinking of how everyone seems to dwell on the negative aspect of being a JW. How about a positive approach? While I never plan to ever be a JW again I can recall some positives that happened along the way, here are a few that come to mind:

1. Learned to be a speaker.
2. Learned to think on my feet.(door to door)
3. Had some nice group camping trips.
4. Enjoyed working at conventions, comradre.
5. Enjoyed the feeling at the end of a Quick/Build.
6. Got a kick out if my children's first presentation.
7. Learned about how politics work. (helped on the job)
8. Praise as an example.
9. Administration work, big goof off during convention.
10. Bethel, learned there were one hundred ways to do things and you do it the company way. (good lesson in life)

Please don't get me wrong, I am not becoming nostalgic for WT, but along the way you can't suppress it all as being wicked and bad. As with any religion you maybe associated with, if there were not any positives no one would ever go to church. WT demanded a high price for any positives it offered far to much for what it was worth, yet since you paid so much for this stuff you might as well think about some of the good you got. If I listed the negatives the list would be far longer and of much greater cost. It seems a good part of the forum devotes it time and energy to the "bad" list. I understand many need to get it out of their head and on paper to understand it. They should not be condemned in any way for doing so, But in some ways you might look at it as a bad marriage, no matter how bad it was there was some good. If a person continues to focus only on how rotten things were, soon it affects them for the worse, if they eventually do not let it go, accept what happened and move on in their relationships.

By perhaps trying to see some of the positives it helps me to see as with anything in life, you had a learning experience and hopefully it made you a better person in the end.

So I ask you, What are the positive things you learned about being a JW?

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July 22nd Asleep! on volunteers.

by NikL in

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has anyone seen the july 22nd awake?

it is all about volunteers.

how wonderful and charitable the watchtower society is!

messenger

This article is a pure propaganda piece if there ever was one. Any witness who reads this should feel sick to think WT would go to such large lengths to misrepresent the facts. Worldwide work my ass. The only ones who benefit from WT charity are new book salesman. It is much like saying when a encylopedia company hires new sales people that the training they get is a great charity work to help the world. NOT! The only persons who are helped is WT. If those people were not selling they get no help unless you are like the story told in Japan. A little van was sent to the hospital of EXCESS supplies. Of the thousands injured I wonder how many millions of dollars was spent by mainstream religion to help the victims compared to the little WT charity van.

Finally the sister who was highlighted as a nurse who helped hospitals when she worked unassigned territories. Is this new light from the GB? Since when did any witness do voluntary work when going to unassigned territory? NEVER, never advised to do so in any article. Yet this sister becomes a poster child for how we do our work. Disturbing, disgusting, pardon me while I vomit.

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I have JW's staying with me...help!

by Princess in

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i have had my jw cousin and his wife and three children staying at my house since sunday.

i thought i'd just share a few experiences with you all.. my husband and i are marveling at the numerous compromises they have made since coming here to washington state from wisconsin.

they are here to visit his disfellowshipped mother who has cancer.

messenger

Oh man could you have fun with this, you know the biggest fear of jw's, demons..... here are a few suggestions:

1. Go buy a ouji board and leave it laying out where they can see it.
2. Stick an eight ball under the covers where they are sleeping.
On both accounts act like you did not know where they came from.
3. Rent the exorcest video and leave it out where they can see it.
4. At night drag a chain across the floor.
5. In the middle of the night scream at the top of you lungs, let your family in on it and when they rush in all of you say what noise?
6. Laugh histerically in the middle of the night.
7. When they are eating breakfast, stop every few minutes and say, "Did you see that?" then say, "Oh nothing."
8. Hide some of their luggage for a day and then put it back where it was.
9. In the middle of a conversation look across the room and say firmly, "stop that" then continue your conversation.
10. Wear a dead chicken's foot around you neck for one day.

Remember be very sweet and tell them how much it means to have them stay with you over and over again.

Hey they are messing with you, why not mess with them a little bit.

I wonder how long they would last.

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