So yeah, I wrote this OP with the hope of the JW non members to sit and mull it over.
But please do carry on bickering on a different issue....
i assume you guys don't have loved ones that you hope come here every now and then.
do you believe in islam?
there are 1.6 billion muslims.
do you accept the pope as gods representative on earth?
So yeah, I wrote this OP with the hope of the JW non members to sit and mull it over.
But please do carry on bickering on a different issue....
i assume you guys don't have loved ones that you hope come here every now and then.
do you believe in islam?
there are 1.6 billion muslims.
do you accept the pope as gods representative on earth?
Do you believe in Islam? There are 1.6 billion Muslims. Do you accept the pope as gods representative on earth? There are 1.2 billion Catholics. Do you accept the Hindu belief system? There are 1 billion Hindus.
By now you have to accept that these mutually exclusive beliefs with many followers prove that it is possible to be a human and hold a belief that is wrong. They can't all be right. All of these people believe they are as right as you do or once did. Some would, and have died for their beliefs. As you read this some are fighting and dying in their gods name.
Now ask yourself if it is possible for all these billions of people to be wrong, can 7 million JW's?
Can you be wrong?
What exactly have the Jw's got RIGHT. Now think of all the things they have got wrong....
Is is it POSSIBLE....... You were raised in a false religion? How could it not be.
the roller coaster ride of leaving the jw.org cult..... guilt .
fear.
anger.
long time lurker (2009-ish), first time poster.
first of all, i want to say thank you everyone who contributes to these boards and provokes stimulating conversations and thought processes.
all the opinions and different perspectives are very enlightening.
It makes every day more precious, not less....also, welcome to adult reasoning and congratulations on dismissing fantasy, myth and fairytales for the masses ........
Truth or comfort, the big spiritual question for a human,
he had a human father.. all those doctrines of redemption, ransom and forgiveness come to nothing in the face of reality.
we need to look after each other..
According to the biblical account, Joseph was in NO way related to Jesus, he was in no way genetically related to Joseph.
it was Mary and God remember...... Without consent too.....
the roller coaster ride of leaving the jw.org cult..... guilt .
fear.
anger.
The roller coaster ride of leaving the JW.ORG cult....
Guilt
Fear
Anger
Disappointment
Anger
Less Guilty
Happier
Less Angry
Thankful
Lucky
A bit angry again
Dissapointed
Regretful
Empowered
Happy
At peace
Happy
At peace
Happy
At peace...
Hilarity at what we once believed.
i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.
you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!
what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.
Hey man, congrats on your bravery and free thought, I am sincerely impressed by your inner strength, knowing what it takes to dare to even doubt.
you can make it very easy on yourself and your wife. The Watchtower literature have sold you a god, it's a fatherly, warm, loving God who cares so much for you he even notices a leak, amongst all of earths goings on......etc etc etc... He cares when you are financially broken, when you are emotionally exhausted and when you are physically ill.....
The best thing I ever did, was read the bible, from scratch.... I mean, not in a robitic JW way with a JW focus on specific sentences, ignoring the rest, but reading it as you would read literature, a book. I STRONGLY recommend it.
By by the time you have read a few books with continuity and context you will see things you had never ever seen before, things that will make you realise the bible tells a very different story with a very different God, a very, very, very unpleasant deity.....
trust me, the good book will sink the nails in the coffin itself,,... You have to love the irony
"there are only three reasons you should miss a meeting.
fever, fracture or funeral.
everything else is a sorry excuse.
the science is in: god is the answer.
research shows kids raised with spirituality are happier and healthier in the vulnerable teen years.
why arent we all signing up?.
Tell your kids Santa exist and they will be happier for it and behave better on the assumption of reward,
Doesn't make Santa real.
Correlation does not imply causation and is a well known logical fallacy.
(Assuming some took this OP as sincere!)
(sorry for any typos, i'm on my ipad) so, remember how in my last post i mentioned that i had told some of my dear friends why i decided to leave?
well, one of those friends was a girl... not just any girl, but rather, a girl that i've loved since the moment i've met her.
she used to say that she considered me her best friend and we were really close she just never really returned my feelings for her due to different circumstances i presume.. but i always felt a connection.. anyways, after telling her that i decided to leave because of multiple reasons but that the tolerance of child sex abuse was the final straw, she responded asking where i got my information and that she wanted to talk about it with me.. this feels like an opportunity for me to tell her about my findings, what do you think?