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  A.D. -The Most Important Book Today?

  by metatron in

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  i just started reading "a.d. - after disclosure" by richard dolan.

  it is an attempt to rationally predict what will ( or would, depending on your viewpoint) happen when authorities around the world admit that extraterrestrials exist and first contact happens.. will markets crash?

  will religions collapse?

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  scotoma

  slimboy,

  The phenomenon that my family and others experienced (neighbors and friends in a 5 mile radius) was either aliens or demons and I don't believe in demons.

  Friends that I have explained this to in details and who know me to be a skeptic just shrug their shoulders. Known skeptics can be deluded.

  It really doesn't matter whether you believe or not. There are no life and death consequences. I don't believe in the alien crashes and anal probing abductions. Those things are unlikely based on what aliens would do here if they were so advanced as to be able to travel long distances instantly or jump dimensions.

  Among the thousands of reports there are about 5 percent that are really substantive.
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  A.D. -The Most Important Book Today?

  by metatron in

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  i just started reading "a.d. - after disclosure" by richard dolan.

  it is an attempt to rationally predict what will ( or would, depending on your viewpoint) happen when authorities around the world admit that extraterrestrials exist and first contact happens.. will markets crash?

  will religions collapse?

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  scotoma

  I went to a lecture last year by Richard Dolan and got an autographed copy of A.D.

  I haven't had time to read it. I did get to talk to him about my experience with a UFO.

  It was a lecture sponsored by MUFON.

  There were about 75 people in attendance. They weren't weird at all. They seemed very informed.

  I'm not a member of MUFON. Just curious because of my own experience.
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  I went to Pioneer School, three times...so there

  by Quarterback in

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  don't you just hate it.

  a school that strokes the egos of r-pioneers.

  there is no school for publishers.

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  scotoma

  And what's so sacred about the text book for the school? They take them back when school is over.

  The Watchtower is just another ordinary human religious organization that doesn't realize the Bible isn't the book they think it is.

  All the special schools are a pathetic and feeble effort to boost morale.

  30 hour pioneers?

  I remember when most of the servants all got in 30 hours every month. Pre book study service = 4 hrs. per month. Wed bible study night 4 hours per month. Friday night street corner work = 4 hours per month. Saturday2 hours door to door and 1 hour magazine route calles = 12 hours per month. Sunday morning field service 2 hours and 1 hour back calls = 12 hours per month. Total = 36 hours per month.

  That was my routine from the time I started taking doors myself at 5 years old in 1950 old until I left home at 21 in 1967. That's a total of around 6000 hours by the time I reached 21. Add the 420 hours at long 60 minute meetings not including prep and travel time. That comes to a total of over 12000 hours of the most valuable youth time you could ever have. 12000 hours of peak mental abilities to learn. They say it takes 10000 hours to become an expert at something. I am an expert at NOTHING.
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  C.O. Reports: JWs/WTS "Reach Critical Mass...

  by BitterTruth in

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  jehovah's witnesses/wts have reached "critical mass" - says ex-circuit overseer.

  ------posting copied from h2o-----.

  posted by xelder [seeker4] on july 13, 2000 at 12:00:52 {rn3hpwrs1eubi2tgjvegd9bhhxgwag}:.

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  scotoma

  These old posts reveal how little changes.

  This one is from 2001 with the last post in 2010

  How long can an organization fall apart?

  After reading this I realized that the Watchtower is quite immune to change. It could easily go another 12 years without anything changing.

  The only wild card is what happens in the centenial year of 2014.
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  Proof of Heaven book - anyone read it?

  by jay dubless in

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  it was released a few months ago.

  it is not religious propaganda.

  written by dr eben alexander, a neurosurgeon, who went into a coma for a week, and his subsequent journey into the afterlife.

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  scotoma

  No I haven't read it. And I don't intend to read it.

  There are millions of books I haven't read and that I don't intend to read.

  I had written a longer response but when I read the previous discussion on this topic I realized I couldn't really add anything to what has already been said.
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  I Wouldn't Look For Russia To Get Nicer To WTS

  by metatron in

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  http://hotair.com/archives/2013/03/25/russian-police-conducting-unannounced-audits-on-amnesty-international-human-rights-groups-offices/.

  they ain't playin', homey!.

  the wts looks very ngo to me.

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  scotoma

  When the Watchtower abandoned the King of the North scenario for Russia they lost one of their best narratives.

  It appears Russia and the United States are permanent enemies.
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  Taped apostasy judicial commitee of young couple!

  by BU2B in

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  sorry but you may have to copy and paste this into your browser.. www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx3pdou3ejo.

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  scotoma

  The sad thing is that this young couple is playing the witness game and that they still believe their is a god and that he wrote the Bible.

  They're as ignorant as they're leaving.
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  I Wouldn't Look For Russia To Get Nicer To WTS

  by metatron in

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  http://hotair.com/archives/2013/03/25/russian-police-conducting-unannounced-audits-on-amnesty-international-human-rights-groups-offices/.

  they ain't playin', homey!.

  the wts looks very ngo to me.

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  Berta, Bonnie and the Judge

  by scotoma in

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  has anyone edited the information about this incident in one coherent treatment?.

  to me it is one of the most amazing pieces of evidence against the claims of divine selection of the watchtower leaders/writers as the "faithful and discreet slave".. since mere congregation overseers are to be "irreprehensible...a man presiding over his own household...not a drunken brawler...fine testimony from people on the outside" how much more would you expect the overseer of the global congregation to meet those qualifications.

  true, rutheford is long gone but he still needs to be repudiated as an example of someone who "did not walk with god".. larc has passed, farkel is fairly exhausted.

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  Apparently no one knows about this any more.

  I could have put this at the end of the 2004 thread started by Farkel but I suspected it would get little traction.

  Once again you can see why the JW organization wins. Scandal doesn't last even in a group of hard core dissenters.

  The original post was very powerful with over 75,000 visits.

  It should be condensed down to a 16 page magazine format and distributed to every home within 10 blocks of a kingdom hall.

  It appears even the original contributors to that thread have no interest in weighing in on this suggestion.
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  Berta, Bonnie and the Judge

  by scotoma in

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  has anyone edited the information about this incident in one coherent treatment?.

  to me it is one of the most amazing pieces of evidence against the claims of divine selection of the watchtower leaders/writers as the "faithful and discreet slave".. since mere congregation overseers are to be "irreprehensible...a man presiding over his own household...not a drunken brawler...fine testimony from people on the outside" how much more would you expect the overseer of the global congregation to meet those qualifications.

  true, rutheford is long gone but he still needs to be repudiated as an example of someone who "did not walk with god".. larc has passed, farkel is fairly exhausted.

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  scotoma

  Has anyone edited the information about this incident in one coherent treatment?

  To me it is one of the most amazing pieces of evidence against the claims of divine selection of the Watchtower leaders/writers as the "faithful and discreet slave".

  Since mere congregation overseers are to be "irreprehensible...a man presiding over his own household...not a drunken brawler...fine testimony from people on the outside" how much more would you expect the overseer of the Global Congregation to meet those qualifications. True, Rutheford is long gone but he still needs to be repudiated as an example of someone who "did not walk with God".

  Larc has passed, Farkel is fairly exhausted. Leolia?

  I would like to see chronological evidence along with the challenges that were answered. Although, many weighed in with positive appreciation those comments could be eliminated to make the content more digestible.

  Maybe it could be presented in the dialog format that was used in the old Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose book.

  Then some good actors could present it all on Youtube.

  This would be a powerful Anti-Drama.