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  Speech

  by Gorbatchov in

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  we, the guardians of doctrine, are not dogmatic.

  just obey!

  100 years of kingdom rule is a fact!.

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  kramer

  Thank you brother , that was a very helpful and illuminating post
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  How to Read Financial Statements

  by JeffT in

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  i just put an entry on my blog.

  thought it might be useful in all the discussions about money.

  feel free to post questions or comments either here or on my blog.. http://pathologicallyintellectual.blogspot.com/.

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  kramer

  Thanks for that very simple explanation,

  i can't believe that they won't publish worldwide consolidated accounts I wonder what the charity's reason for not doing this is?
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  Let's Consolidate World Branch Layoff Threads - Oct 2015

  by TheListener in

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  there has been many threads from various posters around the world about recent bethel layoffs.. so far i remember threads about:.

  south africa.

  united states.

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  kramer

  What is also unbelievable is posters like Slidin Fast posting made up numbers of reductions and then others saying OMG can't believe it, Britain branch will either have a slight decrease or possible 15% increase, plans aren't finalised yet.
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  Money, Money, Money...and Money, Money, Money

  by The Rebel in

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  i made a post of this, but feel it warrants a thread.

  in central london ( paddington) the " property management company" we refer to as jehovers witnesses, bought a church building, which is now a kingdom hall, but with the outside appearance of a church.. i got an explanation from bethel " it's just a building".

  well let's give the organisation credit for its business sence.

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  kramer

  "Since the WT has taken over EVERYTHING, "

  Not sure what you mean by this, " the WT' hasn't taken over anything, congregations are still independent charities, whose assets are still governed by the local members of the charity, the WT owns nothing, in the UK anyway. But it could be argued they are better placed to transfer ownership to other charities with similar objects - such as a centralised worldwide charity with very similar objects - Like - WT-USA. But this is really not a simple matter.
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  What will you do?

  by Defianttruth in

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  i've been thinking, "what if it does fail and there is a mass exodus?".

  i have been wronged and damaged greatly by these ones.

  every one needs to handle this situation in his or her own way, but as for me if it does happen, i will meet them with open arms.

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  kramer

  you think there will be a mass exodus??? 0% growth is the best you can hope for, otherwise its 1-2% for the next 10 years at least
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  Money, Money, Money...and Money, Money, Money

  by The Rebel in

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  i made a post of this, but feel it warrants a thread.

  in central london ( paddington) the " property management company" we refer to as jehovers witnesses, bought a church building, which is now a kingdom hall, but with the outside appearance of a church.. i got an explanation from bethel " it's just a building".

  well let's give the organisation credit for its business sence.

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  kramer

  But there are two bedroom flats in the area for £2m £3.7m, so money to be made if permission was there.
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  Money, Money, Money...and Money, Money, Money

  by The Rebel in

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  i made a post of this, but feel it warrants a thread.

  in central london ( paddington) the " property management company" we refer to as jehovers witnesses, bought a church building, which is now a kingdom hall, but with the outside appearance of a church.. i got an explanation from bethel " it's just a building".

  well let's give the organisation credit for its business sence.

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  kramer

  Don't be silly , there is no way you would get 50 flats on that site, 15 maximum, also the building is listed so pretty much can't be changed and also you wouldn't get consent for change of use from the local authority , and such a development would be strongly objected against by locals , and you would have to rehouse the 5 congregations or groups that use the hall, which means developing an equally expensive site.... Move along nothing to see here,
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  Wt contradiction

  by poopie in

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  7/15/2010 wt says"in more recent times opposers of true worship similarly used the threat of isolation in an effort to put fear in the hearts of true christians.

  sounds a lot like shunning.

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  kramer

  You have trouble writing in coherent english don't you?
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  disfelloshiped treated worse then lepers

  by poopie in

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  wow lepers could at least cry out unclean unclean

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  kramer

  Why do you think you can't cry out unclean, you can do that if you want.
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  Freedom of Information - Australia

  by kramer in

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  the evidence exhibits in the royal commission comprise in parts of things like the branch manual.

  in australia, would these now be matters of public record?

  if so is it possible to get hold of them?

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  kramer

  The evidence exhibits in the royal commission comprise in parts of things like the branch manual. In Australia, would these now be matters of public record? If so is it possible to get hold of them?