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  Went to my first meeting today anonymously!

  by TimothyT in

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  hi everyone.. jack and i decided we would go to his local kingdom hall this morning.

  although i have no interest anymore in being a jw, i think its still nice to have regular bible discussions, etc, which can give you something spiritual to think about each week.

  i love it and i think its damn good for you.. today, jack and i walked in, a little nervous, but were greeted and welcomed like friends.

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  Well im quite annoyed with myself now then. I feel so confused. Iv belonged to this organisation for about 20 years and despite the negative things, i am simply trying to be the better person, put them aside, and focus on things I see which are good and desirable in the organisation. It cant all be evil can it?

  I seriously couldnt give a shi* about becoming a JW again, but i miss and CRAVE bible discussion and warm association. I know you may argue that if i was a JW i never actualy had that. I would disagree because i was often encouraged at meetings to study my bible for myself, which i did alone and with no publications. The studies about Jesus, with no bias from the WTS were good. Sometimes id have WTS-bias-free scriptural discussions with JWs which i found stimulating.

  It is undeniable though that if they dont accept me for who I am, then i certainly shouldnt be with them.

  I NEED the association and study from somewhere. Can anyone who lives in the UK give me some suggestion of any such group or church that exists who hold discussions and studies in such a way?

  Timmy
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  Went to my first meeting today anonymously!

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi everyone.. jack and i decided we would go to his local kingdom hall this morning.

  although i have no interest anymore in being a jw, i think its still nice to have regular bible discussions, etc, which can give you something spiritual to think about each week.

  i love it and i think its damn good for you.. today, jack and i walked in, a little nervous, but were greeted and welcomed like friends.

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  TimothyT

  Hi everyone.

  Jack and I decided we would go to his local Kingdom Hall this morning. Although I have no interest anymore in being a JW, I think its still nice to have regular bible discussions, etc, which can give you something spiritual to think about each week. I love it and I think its damn good for you.

  Today, Jack and I walked in, a little nervous, but were greeted and welcomed like friends. It was an incredible experience! The talk and Watchtower were spiritualy stimulating too. Now i look back at it, I see why new ones are drawn to it. It was a lovely experience, but it makes me totaly sad. The people are so nice, so genuine, so kind, but unfortunately, if they were to learn who we truly are, we'd be shunned instantly. There is just no easy way with this organisation is there! Its either all or nothing!

  I explained to Jack as we walked home that of course, I know where i stand in terms of the organisation. I DONT believe it is the truth, but i enjoy the way it encourages bible study and discussion in the meetings. In effect, id like to use it purely for what i want and on my own terms. In the matter of becoming one again and sacrificing my relationship with him, my mind and heart are clearly defined.

  Do any of you still feel this? Do you still desire the spiritual push or the desire to just have nice friends?

  Timmy xxx
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  For those of you who are disfellowshipped!

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how do you respond when you walk past a jw or bump into a close jw friend who broke of contact with you?.

  i remember when one brother was disfellowshipped, he himself honoured the arrangement and walked past the brothers with his eyes fixed to the floor.. im going to be disfellowshipped in 8 days, so i just thought id ask you all.. personaly, im going to be kind and cheery as i always tried to be with people.. timmy xxx.

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  Thanks for the advice and thoughts.

  I reasoned with myself that the so called 'friends' that i have made throughout my life in this org are about to abandon me.

  How sickening it is to base friendship on what the person believes instead of who they are. Not the kind of friends i want anyway.

  It is heartening to know though that in some years, perhaps the non hardcore JWs may stop and see how im getting on. :D

  Timmy x
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  For those of you who are disfellowshipped!

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how do you respond when you walk past a jw or bump into a close jw friend who broke of contact with you?.

  i remember when one brother was disfellowshipped, he himself honoured the arrangement and walked past the brothers with his eyes fixed to the floor.. im going to be disfellowshipped in 8 days, so i just thought id ask you all.. personaly, im going to be kind and cheery as i always tried to be with people.. timmy xxx.

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  How do you respond when you walk past a JW or bump into a close JW friend who broke of contact with you?

  I remember when one brother was disfellowshipped, he himself honoured the arrangement and walked past the brothers with his eyes fixed to the floor.

  Im going to be disfellowshipped in 8 days, so i just thought id ask you all.

  Personaly, im going to be kind and cheery as i always tried to be with people.

  Timmy xxx
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  My judicial commitee is tonight at 7pm!

  by TimothyT in

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  im not going!

  im almost free!.

  timmy xxx.

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  Thanks everyone.

  The elders called me after my second hearing tonight and told me that I am going to be disfellowshipped for loose conduct. No surprises there of course.

  As I have seven days to appeal I assume this means I will be disfellowshipped on the 25th August.

  Once again, thanks for all your support and reassuring me that it is literaly "a piss in the ocean"! :)

  Timmy xxx
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  My judicial commitee is tonight at 7pm!

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  im not going!

  im almost free!.

  timmy xxx.

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  Jean Luc Picard: I think my dad will be affected by my decision. If they put pressure on him he wont like it. We shall have to see.

  Billy the exbethelite: I always enjoy reading your posts... your bible knowledge always highlights to me that sometimes the JWs have some very odd traditions which are not bible based. I have heard you use the expression "I disfellowship them" before. I think its REALY good and i have even used it when speaking with some others. Thanks very much.

  Shamus 100: Haha... i like the sound of that!

  Allelsefails: Thats a good point. I neither wanted to make a dramatic exit or stay in, so i decided their was no point in going. They knew my feelings and i knew the organisations policies. What is there to gain from going?

  Thanks to everyone else for your nice words.

  Timmy xxx
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  My judicial commitee is tonight at 7pm!

  by TimothyT in

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  2. beliefs

  im not going!

  im almost free!.

  timmy xxx.

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  Hello everyone.

  Of course im more than glad to listen to everyone's opinions on the subject. For those who thing its cowardice or unmanly then im fine in telling you that i have already spoken with one of the elders about the whole subject. He is a good friend and he was VERY respectful. I told him all of my feelings and that i believe the choice to disfellowship me isnt exactly right, but im not going to argue or complain. To make the matter known to two witnesses, I called another elder and simply said to him, I wont change the way that i was born because i shouldnt have to. I also said to him, that because i have spoken with the other elder who i respect, i dont see any reason to go to the commitee. All they would throw at me are scriptures and lines of reasoning that i looked at and dismissed a long time ago. This is the simple reason why im not going. Im not celebrating either, however, i am happy with the fact that i will be free to do as i wish.

  Timmy xxx
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  My judicial commitee is tonight at 7pm!

  by TimothyT in

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  2. beliefs

  im not going!

  im almost free!.

  timmy xxx.

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  TimothyT

  Im not going!

  It almost over!

  Im almost free!

  Timmy xxx
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  Cantleave and Nugget are coming to visit me!

  by Pams girl in

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  i met the lovely mummatron 2 weeks ago and had a fab day x. tomorrow, cantleave and nugget are travelling down with their kids and stopping off to say hi for a few hours before continuing through wales!.

  im making a huge lasagne, and have got the beers and vino in.......so excited!.

  will be great putting faces to the name, and im glad that at long last, i seem to be able to step out of my little world and make friends.. have got my smurf hanging outside the door so they know my house............. feels like an early christmas present, happy days!

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  Oooh that sounds nice Paula! It makes me want to come and visit too! :D

  How long does it take to get from North Wales to South Wales? xxx :D
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  Angels are taking the lead in the preaching work

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  consider one experience in which two kingdom publishers were accompanied by a small child.

  at the end of the morning, the two witnesses were about to stop their preaching work, but the child was unusually eager to go to the next home.

  in fact, he went by himself and knocked on the door!

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  TimothyT

  I agree with AuzzieOz.

  My sister is a mormon and one of the missionaries who spoke to her told her smiliar stories.

  Does that mean that their preaching work is directed by the angels too?

  Perhaps I am missing something here!