my sisters' funeral service was just appalling.
an absolute disgrace.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/medical/216561/1/my-sister-died-this-morning-after-refusing-blood-on-four-occasions.
the funeral was held today for my sister when every opportunity was used as a sales pitch to promote their malignant message, in this case to any non jw's that may be present, just like any other pyramid scam it seems.. the person whose funeral it is just has a minor bit part to play compared to the main feature , the promotion of the all encompassing multi-talented multi-tentacled wts that you can rely on to guide misguide and pervade every nook and cranny of your life including when to die.. and why not, because as gods only prophet to all mankind, they don't just hear gods voice, they are gods voice.. ***watchtower 1957 june 15 p.370*** "it is vital that we respond to the directions of the "slave" as we would to the voice of god.
Still Wondering - A BIGGGGGGGGGGGGG HUG! I feel for you at this time!
I think its dreadful the way that JW funerals are conducted. I often cringed during funerals when they would start using it as a vehicle to advertise themselves! Its VERY bad practice and it is also heartless!!!
I hope you are feeling ok! Just remember we are here to listen! :)
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the wt study edition is getting a facelift for the new year.. the january issue had been posted on jw.org but.... the boes hadn't received notice by letter of such a change.. the wts likes to play up every opportunity to have a new release.. this time the jw.org techies jumped the gun and went on to post.
the issues for download according to their established schedule.. unfortunately, they went ahead of the fds/gb who too late .
realized the cat was out of the bag, sort of saying.. well, it got pulled off the website, for now at least.. what's so secretive about it?.
Has it ever occured to anyone that the Watchtower SHOULD have ALWAYS been in simple English anyway?
What made them get to the point when the Watchtower became SO complicated that they needed a new version?
If these spiritual truths are to be understood, surely they should have been written as simply and succinctly as possible in the first place.
i like that song so much and i was thinking about myself.... im 29 and i took the desition to have sex with my boyfriend and ... man, i feel like a woman!!
im enjoying it without guilt.
i dunno if im right or wrong but at this point of my life i need this and im happy .
Thanks Dudu. I think a lot of us can understand your situation and i think that MANY of us here have great amounts of courage. I think we all know how it feels to be trapped, but also im sure we all understand that life is not about such petty rules and nonsense that the JWs teach. The bible teaches about love and forgiveness, kindness, compassion and enjoying your life.
Make the most of it! :)
i have never had any personal help from a member of the fds apart from what i read in the literature... which was very little because id rather read the bible.
even as a jw, if i had any encouragement it came from the elders or the bible.
they were the ones that did the hard work and cared.
I noticed this before i left. I noticed elders becoming very tired and very ill with their responsibilities. I personally felt that the religion is not what it once was. I recall not so long ago when i enjoyed it. There was a real sense of community and love within the congregation. However things became stressfull and i could feel it falling apart from every level.
I have to say that i know very little about the annointed class teaching, but I do understand one simple scripture from John 3:16. It says there that ANYONE exercising faith in Jesus may recieve eternal life. I dont recall reading anywhere in the New Testament where Jesus made two distinct groups. In Acts everyone was given Holy Spirit to preach and they were all encouraged to do so.
Its nice however that you recieved spiritual encouragement from such ones. Those who profess to be in charge should most definitely be leading from the front. That is the sign of a good leader. Perhaps my perception is wrong, but it appears that the GB members have very cushy lives in Brooklyn, living off the backs of clever businessmen and the donations of the R&F. In return they arrange for information to be printed for us. On the other hand, you have someone like my dad. 5 years ago, he was supporting a family of 5, a house, a job, a car, he was taking the Theocratic Ministry School, doing many shepherding visits, taking ministry arrangements, whilst severely stressing himself out and deteorating his own health to the benefit of EVERYONE ELSE! What credit do the elders who do this recieve? He got none. Rather he was told by the CO he wasnt doing enough. Some cheek!
My dad was a real hero, a true faithful and discreet slave. :)
Timmy :) xxx
the wt study edition is getting a facelift for the new year.. the january issue had been posted on jw.org but.... the boes hadn't received notice by letter of such a change.. the wts likes to play up every opportunity to have a new release.. this time the jw.org techies jumped the gun and went on to post.
the issues for download according to their established schedule.. unfortunately, they went ahead of the fds/gb who too late .
realized the cat was out of the bag, sort of saying.. well, it got pulled off the website, for now at least.. what's so secretive about it?.
Danke Blondie! :)
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Haha... what a great point Outlaw! They gave him an unusual amount of attention in this article didnt they. It seems a shame though that what they explained merely showed that Jesus was prophesied about and then fulfilled these prophecies. I agree there was little point to it, although I did find it interesting.
As you rightfuly said however, they fired him as mediator, so what is the point in the article? It may as well have been called 'They Found the Governing Body'!
probably this topic has been dealt with before, but i'm relatively new here, so perhaps y'all will be willing to indulge me in my pursuit for clarity.
regarding the anointed, the gb recently said this: .
"we thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know.
00DAD you said this above, and i know exactly what you mean:
It's a "composite body" of about eleven thousand (give or take) but only seven of them really do any of the work. So what was the point of Jesus illustration/parable/prophecy again?
What a good point! According to them, the FDS is the entire lot of them and THEY are responsible for feeding the sheep. However only 7 men represent them to do that. Lets be honest, the other 11,000 or whatever is do naff all. They just live in the congs or at bethel homes and just serve as normal JWs with no particular role.
I just want to pick up on something though. It seems apparant, that many people would thank the GB members for all the hard work they do, CARING FOR THE DOMESTICS! However, it is from my knowledge that the elders from each congregation are the ones who stress out doing this. I have NEVER had any personal help from a member of the FDS apart from what i read in the literature... which was very little because id rather read the bible. Even as a JW, if i had any encouragement it came from the elders or the bible. They were the ones that did the hard work and cared. They were more faithful and discreet slaves than these self professed men sitting in Brooklyn!
Timmy xxx
being very interested in psychology i read a book as a teenager and re-read it last year called " gestalt therapy verbatim " by frederick perls m.d.
ph, d. .
it deals with dreamwork therapy in which he conducted seminars helping people to re-connect with subconscious parts of themselves by recounting their dreams .
I certainly believe dreams mean something.
I often have similar dreams and while i was going through the time of my disfellowshipping i had some pretty cool dreams. Here was one:
I dreamt I was in the main highstreet in my town and i was preaching with my fellow JW friends. Suddenly they all turned on me and started chasing me, shouting at me and trying to grab hold of me. I knew it was because they knew i was not longer acceptable to be one of them. Heres the fun part: As in most of my dreams lately, i have developed an amazing ability to jump very far and very high without hurting myself. I remember that the chase led to me running and jumping completely out of their reach up on the top of a 3 storey building. From there I looked down at them and smiled, happily eluding their grasp. I CERTAINLY believe this has meaning.
The JWs stand for the organisation.
The trying to grasp me meant their authority over me.
My ability to jump is my freedom and my desire to be liberated.
Timmy :)
probably this topic has been dealt with before, but i'm relatively new here, so perhaps y'all will be willing to indulge me in my pursuit for clarity.
regarding the anointed, the gb recently said this: .
"we thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know.
Thanks for the link Fokyc... i have read this book and i thought it was good!
Sorry to deviate from the thread 00DAD, but regarding my previous post then, why do the GB not care about keeping track of these annointed ones if they are so important? What is the motive of this decision? Is it power????
probably this topic has been dealt with before, but i'm relatively new here, so perhaps y'all will be willing to indulge me in my pursuit for clarity.
regarding the anointed, the gb recently said this: .
"we thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know.
Here is an interesting point for consideration:
The GB LOVE to be organised! The terms 'organized', 'organization', 'organize' comes up about 22,000 times on the WT library. They are so interested in keeping files and records on EVERY SINGLE rank and file member, yet for some reason "The Governing Body does not keep a list of all partakers". HOW COULD THEY MISS THIS GROUP OUT? I would have thought keeping a list of these ones would be of most importance to such an organised group.
How strange!
