Posts by TimothyT

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Do you sense that the Watchtower will implode?

by AK - Jeff in

since leaving the organization 8 years ago, there have been more significant changes in the actual, physical activities of the organization than occurred in all the 40 plus years i was 'in'.

bethel closings.

bethel layoffs.

TimothyT

It certainly feels like its imploding at the moment doesnt it! From closure of bethel homes to STUPID doctrine changes, it appears that money is becoming a problem and people are no longer satisfied with what they are being taught. In my congregation, i know of several brothers who werent exactly too happy with the new light that was coming from the GB. Not only that so many of them (including my dad and brother) have become so disgruntled with the silly, nit picky little rules that they just want out of such pressure. When they realise that life is so much easier when you dont go anymore its such an eye opener.

Of course there will always be the die hards, but i wonder if they will still be there in 20 years time. When they have gone I cant imagine who will be left. It appears to me from the figures that the preaching work has stagnated. From awareness in the media and personal experiences, people just dont want to go anywhere near JWs in this country anymore, brandishing them as wierdos. Eventualy the numbers will die down and the GB will have to realise that is happening and do something different.

I think the WT business will always survive though as it has shares in some of the worlds major businesses, but as an organisation im confident that sometime in the future, it will all go down the pan and then we will have to help console those who no longer have anywhere to go.

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Can we make a list? What does the WT really teach me about Jesus?

by Fernando in

jesus is not my mediator..

TimothyT

Salvation comes through an organisation, not directly through Jesus!

The last supper is not for you but only for a select few.

Jesus chose this organisation.

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Keep an eye on this JW prophesy

by irondork in

well, the prophesy is in the bible.

the twist is from brooklyn.

what will happen after the destruction of the world empire of false religion?

TimothyT

What a very good point! They will make the propecy come true themselves the way they are acting!

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More apostate hating from the Watchtower

by Igot2bme in

i ran across this post on fb-.

the november 15, 2011 study version of the watchtower, has this to say in an article praising jehu's actions against the family of ahab.

"the prophet elisha sent one of the sons of the prophets to anoint jehu as king and to instruct him to kill every male of the apostate house of ahab.2 ki.

TimothyT

It is quite harrowing to think that if the JW's had the authority to kill unbelievers like Jehu did in those days, then I'm certain they would carry it out. In some articles i have read in the Watchtower, they almost sound upset that that 'privilege' no longer exists.

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Dub snubbed by my two best JW friends! :(

by TimothyT in

hahahahahahahahahaha!!!.

apart from it being frightfuly rude and ignorant, its actualy very funny and rather pathetic.

i really pity these poor people who's lives are ruled by fear.. across the road from where i was working today lives one of my 'very good jw friends' who no longer has anything to do with me.

TimothyT

Sizemilk: I dont see why i should bring myself down to their level. Plus, Id rather be the Christlike one and show kindness, decency and respect. :)

Broken Promises: HAHA! I hope gayness is infectious! :) I love being gay because im happy. :)

Yan Bibiyan: Haha... in some ways id like to, but i dont think i could do that, even if they treated me like this.

Mind Blown: Yeah... i thought that may have had something to do with it. Interesting though, another of my JW friends has gotten even closer to me since Sunday! :)

Pams Girl: Yes... i hope they realise soon that this is from men and not from Jesus.

Nomad Soul: Haha... there are about 18,000 houses, but i knew i was working accross the road from a JW! Dub snub was therefore very possible! :)

Witness 007: How did someone on here put it... they acknowledge Jesus is there but they cant see him, and they treat you as invisible although they can see you. HAHA!!! I like the bike idea... but i couldnt do that.

Desirous of Change: Yes i agree... i hope that if im respectful to them then in the future they may just say, "OH SCREW THIS... IM CALLING TIM!" In which case i will be more than happy to hear how they are. I understand the whole public thing too. Some would rather not speak to me in public and i appreciate that.

Bella15: Yeh... i know exactly what you mean, and you are right too. They were never my friends because a friend by defintion would not treat his friend this way. Brainwashed to a destructive extent.

Mad Sweeney: It realy doesnt bother me at all... I have such good friends in my life and im more than happy. Their actions today only continue to show me how ridulous they all are, rather than encouraging me to go back. You are right too... I dont want them to be sad and bitter, but if they continue then i assume they could risk living sad lives... and neither of them are spiritual per se. I can see both giving it up for one reason or another. Until then, ill focus on my business and continue living my happy, spiritual, pressure free gay life! :):):)

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Dub snubbed by my two best JW friends! :(

by TimothyT in

hahahahahahahahahaha!!!.

apart from it being frightfuly rude and ignorant, its actualy very funny and rather pathetic.

i really pity these poor people who's lives are ruled by fear.. across the road from where i was working today lives one of my 'very good jw friends' who no longer has anything to do with me.

TimothyT

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Apart from it being frightfuly rude and ignorant, its actualy very funny and rather pathetic. I really pity these poor people who's lives are ruled by fear.

Across the road from where i was working today lives one of my 'very good JW friends' who no longer has anything to do with me. As i was leaving, my 'best JW friend' (age 22) suddenly turned up on his bike. He didnt look at me or acknowledge me once. I just stared at the back of his head smiling, thinking how PATHETIC it was that he is such a lonely person and has a true friend in me, but he refuses to even look at me. When he knocked on the door, my other 'JW friend' (age 19) let him in, realised i was there, looked me in the eye for a SPLIT SECOND, and then quickly slammed the door shut. I couldnt help but laugh. I sent them a text message saying, 'Have a nice day guys. Enjoy the weather. :D'

Looking at it perspectivly, what are they trying to achieve? If they are trying to win me back, then they both should know they are going about it the wrong way because my mind and heart are set as i made that clear to them both. Their little games have no effect on me other than making me laugh. If they are trying to look like d*** h**** then job well done! If they think that ignoring me is going to make me feel like im missing out on 'good upbuilding association', then i think they are rather deluded. I have friends who realy care and love me. When i see stuff like this it makes me realise that i dont want friends who would drop me because of something i am or am not, or something i believe or do not believe. What kind of friends are they? Nontheless, i look forward to speaking to them when they realise that they have spent the last few decades wallowing in unloving, unscriptural and unchristian mire.

Timmy

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What about other religions?

by TimothyT in

i love being a christian and i deeply respect the teachings of jesus and i firmly believe that it is through faith in him that we recieve eternal life and salvation.. but what about everyone else?

islam, hindu, buddhist, etc?.

even as a jw i never believed that salvation was exlusively for jw's, but where do all other sincere worshippers of other religions fit in?

TimothyT

Yep... another one of my favourites! But is it nescesary for them to recognise the importance of that ransom for salvation?

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What about other religions?

by TimothyT in

i love being a christian and i deeply respect the teachings of jesus and i firmly believe that it is through faith in him that we recieve eternal life and salvation.. but what about everyone else?

islam, hindu, buddhist, etc?.

even as a jw i never believed that salvation was exlusively for jw's, but where do all other sincere worshippers of other religions fit in?

TimothyT

Very good Sir82! I have a whole list of scriptures written down which say the same thing. It makes me feel good because i cant see how Jehovah would dispose of all of those good, honest people. The bible certainly doesnt teach such things, unlike the JWs who teach mass genocide.

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The Organisation - Did they stumble you?

by TimothyT in

but whoever stumbles one of these little ones who put faith in me, it is more beneficial for him to have hung around his neck a millstone such as is turned by an ass and to be sunk in the wide, open sea.

(matthew 18:6).

how many of you were like humble little children in the organisation, happily going along with things but then realising something was amiss?

TimothyT

Cool... thanks for your responses. My bible says least of these!

Isaac that is very interesting. I suppose the point im trying to make is that the WTS may have affected some in a negative way, but others positive. Personaly, they have made me question everything about them and in so doing, i have become much more spiritual. Im happy that it was the same for you too, and i ABSOLUTELY respect the fact that you have read books and looked into it. Your choices and beliefs have been based on good solid research. If the WTS helped you to realise the truth about everything then i dont suppose you would blame them. In many ways, im very grateful that they disfellowshipped me because i wouldnt be at this happy stage in my life now. HEHE!!! I just wonder though... when they disfellowship someone and he loses his spirituality completely because of it would God be angry and the whole mill stone thing?

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What about other religions?

by TimothyT in

i love being a christian and i deeply respect the teachings of jesus and i firmly believe that it is through faith in him that we recieve eternal life and salvation.. but what about everyone else?

islam, hindu, buddhist, etc?.

even as a jw i never believed that salvation was exlusively for jw's, but where do all other sincere worshippers of other religions fit in?

TimothyT

I love being a Christian and i deeply respect the teachings of Jesus and i firmly believe that it is through faith in him that we recieve eternal life and salvation.

But what about everyone else? Islam, Hindu, Buddhist, etc?

Even as a JW i never believed that salvation was exlusively for JW's, but where do all other sincere worshippers of other religions fit in? Will they be saved too? I hope so!

Timmy xxx