True True DanaBug. They read off the paper while adding their own little subthoughts. Are they even allowed to use Google or another site to find experiences and statistics? Or only those provided through their publications? I never bothered to look at my dad's outlines.
stillstuckcruz
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Where do the JW's pull their statistics from?
by stillstuckcruz ini noticed how, of course, the public talk outlines contain the same information for all the brothers to use.
but their statistics on matter aren't very up-to-date i imagine.. example: i remember the talk about parents or young people or something.
many of you may remember the statistic it provides.
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Where do the JW's pull their statistics from?
by stillstuckcruz ini noticed how, of course, the public talk outlines contain the same information for all the brothers to use.
but their statistics on matter aren't very up-to-date i imagine.. example: i remember the talk about parents or young people or something.
many of you may remember the statistic it provides.
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stillstuckcruz
Lol @ mrfreeze. I was just waiting for someone to post a picture like this. :P
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Where do the JW's pull their statistics from?
by stillstuckcruz ini noticed how, of course, the public talk outlines contain the same information for all the brothers to use.
but their statistics on matter aren't very up-to-date i imagine.. example: i remember the talk about parents or young people or something.
many of you may remember the statistic it provides.
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stillstuckcruz
I noticed how, of course, the public talk outlines contain the same information for all the brothers to use. But their statistics on matter aren't very up-to-date I imagine.
EXAMPLE: I remember the talk about parents or young people or something. Many of you may remember the statistic it provides. The one that says that parents fathers spend an average of like 8 minutes a day or less with their children and some other number I can't recall. But then check this out...an article entitled "Parents have tripled quality time spent with kids".
Where do they get their statistics from and do they ever update their talk outlines?
P.S. My father gives this particular talk seemingly every month. And I know I've heard those numbers about a million times for years.
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Homeschooling and JW children
by Pams girl inhow many jw kids are homeschooled where you are?
its not very common here in the borough where i live.
i just found out on the grapevine that a girl i know is taking her kids out of our very good primary school because she feels the other children are having such a bad influence on her kids.
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stillstuckcruz
Quite a few JW's in my hall are homeschooled. One mother said it was because she didnt want all those bad influences and drama. But it makes me wonder how these kids fare when they get older and get a job in the real world. If you spent very little time with worldly kids in school, how do you learn to handle the pressure of the working world?
Of course its fine for some kids. But I don't think it's for everyone and should not be for all of your school years, especially for a JW.
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Funniest JW memory?
by stillstuckcruz inperhaps something that happened in fs, the memorial, convention etc.
i need a laugh.
last year at the memorial, an old brother was so shaky in the hands, when he passed the wine it spilled all over him.
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Perhaps something that happened in FS, the Memorial, convention etc. I need a laugh. Last year at the memorial, an old brother was SO shaky in the hands, when he passed the wine it spilled all over him. I'm surprised a disfellowshipping didn't follow. :P
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Apostates or not...I do not condone this behaivior.
by Botzwana inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbo3qhka2ni.
i would ve taken an ak47 and mowed those people down to protect the brothers.
i can disagree all i want but violence isn t the answer..
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stillstuckcruz
i dare them to protest at my kingdom hall. i carry a glock 17 in my car. 17 rounds of 9mm yeah. i bet they would luv federal hy shocks
^Do you plan to run outside and come back in gun ablaze? lol
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How did you feel when the expression "by extension" was used when discussing scriptures?
by stillstuckcruz ini really had a hard time accepting certain scriptures as being an "extension" to modern-day jw's.
examples:.
ip-2 cp6 pg87 paragraph 87: "for gods exiled people in babylon, those words are an assurance that the promised land will not remain desolate.
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stillstuckcruz
I felt the WT society was being arrogant in assuming they knew what that " extension " application of prophecy had in our time.
^THIS. It's the same with assuming that marrying in "The Lord" means a member of the JW organization. How the HECK would they know that? Of course, Holy Spirit MUST be guiding the FaDS so of COURSE thats how they know.
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How did you feel when the expression "by extension" was used when discussing scriptures?
by stillstuckcruz ini really had a hard time accepting certain scriptures as being an "extension" to modern-day jw's.
examples:.
ip-2 cp6 pg87 paragraph 87: "for gods exiled people in babylon, those words are an assurance that the promised land will not remain desolate.
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stillstuckcruz
I really had a hard time accepting certain scriptures as being an "extension" to modern-day JW's. EXAMPLES:
ip-2 cp6 pg87 paragraph 87: "For God’s exiled people in Babylon, those words are an assurance that the Promised Land will not remain desolate. It will be reinhabited. And Jehovah’s promises to them come true. By extension, Isaiah’s words are an assurance to God’s people today that the earth will not become a desolate ruin—charred by fire, as some believe, or destroyed by nuclear bombs, as others fear. God purposes that the earth will remain forever, robed in paradisaic beauty and populated by righteous inhabitant"
es11 pg 41: "The men sitting in the upper room with Jesus that night in Jerusalem were convinced that Jesus was the promised Messiah. (John 6:68, 69) It must surely have warmed their hearts to hear him say to them the words of today’s text. Those words of Jesus to his faithful apostles apply in principle to all anointed Christians today and, by extension, to their “other sheep” companions. "
w10 10/15 pg 18 para13: "Who should take the lead in showing honor? In his letter to the Hebrews, Paul describes Christian elders as “those who are taking the lead among you.” (Heb. 13:17) True, elders take the lead in numerous activities. Still, as shepherds of the flock, they surely need to take the lead in honoring fellow believers—including fellow elders. For instance, when elders meet to consider the spiritual needs of the congregation, they honor one another by carefully listening to the comments made by any of their fellow elders. Further, they show honor by taking into consideration the views and expressions of all the elders when making a decision. (Acts 15:6-15) We should remember, though, that Paul’s letter to the Romans was directed not only to the elders but to the entire congregation. (Rom. 1:7) Thus, by extension, the admonition to take the lead in showing honor applies to all of us today."
w09 10/15 pg13 para 1-2: "THE men sitting in the upper room with Jesus came from a variety of backgrounds. The brothers Peter and Andrew had been fishermen. Matthew was formerly a tax collector—a member of a profession that was despised by the Jews. Some, such as James and John, had likely known Jesus from boyhood. Others, such as Nathanael, may have known him for only a few years. (John 1:43-50) Yet, all present on that momentous Passover night in Jerusalem were convinced that Jesus was the promised Messiah, the Son of the living God. (John 6:68, 69) It must surely have warmed their hearts to hear him say to them: “I have called you friends, because all the things I have heard from my Father I have made known to you.”—John 15:15.
2 Those words of Jesus to his faithful apostles apply in principle to all anointed Christians today and, by extension, to their “other sheep” companions"8 In response Jehovah explained the meaning of his name. He said to Moses: “I shall prove to be what I shall prove to be.” (Exodus 3:14) Many Bible translations here read: “I am that I am.” But the careful rendering in the New World Translation shows that God was not merely affirming his own existence. Rather, he was teaching Moses—and by extension all of us—what that name implies.
"True followers of Jesus Christ, both in the first century and in modern times, have referred to themselves and to fellow believers as “the brothers,” “the friends,” and “the congregation of God.” (Acts 11:29; 3 John 14; 1 Cor. 1:2) They have also spoken of Christ as “the Master” and of themselves as “slaves of Christ Jesus” and “slaves of God.” (Col. 3:24; Phil. 1:1; 1 Pet. 2:16) Such designations have been used freely within the congregation, and there they have been well understood.
In the first century, the manner of life that centered around faith in Jesus Christ (and, by extension, the congregation itself) was referred to as “The Way.” (Acts 9:2; 19:9) A number of translations of Acts 18:25 indicate that it was also called “the way of Jehovah.” On the other hand, some who were outside the congregation derisively referred to it as “the sect of the Nazarenes.”—Acts 24:5."Thoughts?
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Apostates or not...I do not condone this behaivior.
by Botzwana inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbo3qhka2ni.
i would ve taken an ak47 and mowed those people down to protect the brothers.
i can disagree all i want but violence isn t the answer..
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stillstuckcruz
I don't care who you are or what your beliefs are...this type of behavior is NEVER ok. But is these people knew anything, that wouldn't stop them. They know that they will be persecuted(though maybe not for the reasons they think). They feel it's just bible prophecy...which makes them try even harder.
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Kids doing the dirty work...
by MrFreeze ina lot of times i noticed that jw's would have their little ones hold the magazines while out at the door.
i guess they figured it would make the householder more likely to take the trash.. well my parents tried to pull the same thing on me.
only with the memorial.
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stillstuckcruz
Whoa. Yeah, it's unsettling. My old congregation would praise the little ones who were making Pioneer hours (I'm serious, there were two families that did this with their nine year old and six year old kids during the summer). They would also get them to speak about their experinces up in the platform during the experiences segments. I always rolled my eyes, because the stuff these children spewed out was so rehearsed and fake-sounding.
I completely agree. These kids are just trying to please their parents at that age. They don't know what their doing. I don't remember preaching at all when I was little, though I know I did. I'm sure only about .02% of those children would keep going out in FS if their parents stopped going. And that would likely only be because their friends are there.