Xandit,
One thing I am not clear on. What is your status today regarding the Witness culture. Are you in, out, or in between?
my kid brother, tom, was born to witness parents.
he was something of a surprise package and my parents were delighted.
my father said that tom was:.
Xandit,
One thing I am not clear on. What is your status today regarding the Witness culture. Are you in, out, or in between?
i am a christian, what is "jehova's witnesses " all about?.
how do i know which religion i belong to?
i believe in god fully, and i respect all what jehova's have to say when they come knocking at my door.
Anthony,
You said that you are a Christian not a Catholic. Does that mean that Catholics as a group are not Christian?
my kid brother, tom, was born to witness parents.
he was something of a surprise package and my parents were delighted.
my father said that tom was:.
Correction,
That last part should read "never did buy it in the first place" Goes to show you that I never make MISTRAKES.
my kid brother, tom, was born to witness parents.
he was something of a surprise package and my parents were delighted.
my father said that tom was:.
Xandit,
For openers, I don't think you are lying and I'm not from Lower Slobovia. Also, there is no way of knowing if this is a representative sample of those who leave. I just know that on a percentage basis I hear a lot more stories of suppresion of individuality than I hear of stories of unique achievement by someone in the JW culture.
I went to college in 1960. However, almost no one else did that in Akron, Ohio. I asked where you are from, and why you think it was different there? You said that you went to college. What percent of others in your area did the same thing? I'm asking for objective data, and I'm not trying to be critical.
In my own case, I "broke the rules" in several ways. I played on the baseball team in high school, dated "wordly girls", was a member of the HiY club, and most of my day-today friends were from my high school, not my congregation.
On the social stuff, the JW kids occasionally had roller skating parties and parties at someone's house where we danced to rock and roll tunes. We didn't have regular softball games, because there weren't enough of us you could get altogether at any one time.
I wonder if maybe it is more oppressive for the woman than the men, although as a male I was pretty well programed despite the exceptions I mentioned above. I still wonder about your 1975 conclusions, but my knowledge their is second hand. I was out already. Again, however, most that left said that this was turning point for many.
Finally, with your "grain of sand" approach, it sounds like you never really did but it in the first place. My wife was like that, fortunately for me.
A Groucho Marx quote:
You lived in Wales? Did you know Jonah? He used to live in Wales.
i didn't but there's been a lot of talk about it on h2o and other boards.
here's the opening post on h20.. ______________________.
biblexaminer .
Folks,
I wasn't talking about David Koresh. I was talking about the way the government handled it. No one had to die. Anyone of us could have explained the cult mind to gov. officials and helped them with the situation with no loss of life.
my kid brother, tom, was born to witness parents.
he was something of a surprise package and my parents were delighted.
my father said that tom was:.
Xandit,
Where do you live anyway? It seems that the vast majority of people here have had a much different experience than you. I really didn't care for your "lower slobovia" remark, as if our experiences represent some isolated backward place. There is a pretty good cross section of places represented here, and since the WT attempts to stamp out a uniform product from their children, I would say that your situation is very atypical, if true. You strain credebility with your comments. Your comments about 1975, college, and weekend softball don't ring true.
144,000 class.
20,736,000,000 class.
anti-pas class.
You know TR,
Fred has only been here a short while, and he has already shown that there is no point in being ignorant unless you can show it off. I think he is amusing.
some may find this useful, it's quite interesting and, if nothing else, really annoys the elders that you can read it.... url: http://home2.inet.tele.dk/carloc/index.htm
Hey Simon,
I went to a BRCI convention in Orlando Florida a few years back and got a hard copy of the Elders manual from someone who left Bethel and took 40 copies with him. I so much wanted to tell my sister, the zealous one, but I didn't.
One thing that I remember in there. They said that when you counsel someone, you shouldn't use humor. Now, that is the dumbest thing I ever heard. Any other stupidities that you notice would be greatly appreciated.
144,000 class.
20,736,000,000 class.
anti-pas class.
Hey TR,
From what Freddy wrote to us earlier, when he was younger he was a member of the "I can act like an idiot as a teenager and get away with it class."