I just want to say thank you to all. This kind of thing can really cause me to go into a deep depression. I don't feel it will. I have learned a few tricks through the years to keep myself from that. Your comments are one of the things that will really help. All of your advice has been great. Your encuragement has been uplifting. This journey my wife and I have been on started in 2008. Many joys and great saddness and lots of hard work. I remember Randy saying I will never get over the effects of the cult because of my age. I can now see he knew what he was talking about. Being born-in into the JW cult have such a far reaching effect on our lives we have no idea what will come out and fester. Time can only tell how you will deal with it. Totally ADD P.S. There was a time not to many years ago I would have given it back to my son with both barrels. But I feel to a point I have grown a little.
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Got a angry letter from our oldest son today we are very hurt from it.
by TotallyADD inwhen i got home today from work my wife showed me a 5 page letter from our oldest son.
he basically said he does not what anything to do with us because of all the wrong things we did as parents to him and his brother.
he blames us for not being there for him and we are toxic parents.
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Got a angry letter from our oldest son today we are very hurt from it.
by TotallyADD inwhen i got home today from work my wife showed me a 5 page letter from our oldest son.
he basically said he does not what anything to do with us because of all the wrong things we did as parents to him and his brother.
he blames us for not being there for him and we are toxic parents.
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You may be right moshe. The only thing I will have to come to terms with is it takes along time to clean up a tsunami. I think it will be awhile with our son. I am getting to old for this. Totally ADD
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Got a angry letter from our oldest son today we are very hurt from it.
by TotallyADD inwhen i got home today from work my wife showed me a 5 page letter from our oldest son.
he basically said he does not what anything to do with us because of all the wrong things we did as parents to him and his brother.
he blames us for not being there for him and we are toxic parents.
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He brought out it was not the cults fault but mine only. I agree to a point on that, what he does not know how the cult was twisting me to do things I thought at the time was right. The thing was I thought our relationship was getting better. I still think somehow telling his wife about us trigger something. He is 36 years old and I've notice for awhile he has treated me like I don't know anything. It could be the age I don't know. I guess I am just trying to find a answer. I did not bring this out at first but he gave us a optimumatom. If we don't go through therapy and become the person he wants us to be he will not speak to us. Totally ADD
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Got a angry letter from our oldest son today we are very hurt from it.
by TotallyADD inwhen i got home today from work my wife showed me a 5 page letter from our oldest son.
he basically said he does not what anything to do with us because of all the wrong things we did as parents to him and his brother.
he blames us for not being there for him and we are toxic parents.
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When I got home today from work my wife showed me a 5 page letter from our oldest son. He basically said he does not what anything to do with us because of all the wrong things we did as parents to him and his brother. He blames us for not being there for him and we are toxic parents. I agree with him on some of the things he brought out but on many things I feel he is wrong. About 6 weeks ago we were talking on the phone with him and he asked when we was going to let everyone in our family know we were not JW anymore. We told him we was planning to send a letter to his family why we left. He then ask us if it was alright for him to tell his family. We told him that would be find. The next day there was a message on the phone from him that his wife went ballistic on the news and to give him a call on his cell phone. For the next serveral weeks I been calling and calling leaving messages but he never return the call. Until today we was thinking his wife told him not to have any contact with us instead we got a copy of a letter about how bad we were as parents. Back in 2007 after going through over a year of therapy I took both our boys grown boys camping for the purpose of apologizing to both of them and hope they would forgive me for being a abusive parent to them. My abuse was shouting at them and making them to WT things. I was very hard on them. I know that. I wish I could have change the past but I was raised by very abusive WT cult thinking parents. Through the years I have told him how I regetted the way I raised them in the WT cult. He himself left many years ago and I was happy he was free of the cult. But this letter shows he is very angry with us. I feel the cult thinking has trigger something in him.
I read the letter only once then folded it up and put it away feeling very hurt. My goal has been for many years to end this desfuntion in our family but I guess I have failed. My wife is very hurt. She is not home now because she had to go to work after I got home and will not be home until 10 PM tonight. I have wrote a letter to our son and this is what it says. "Dear Son, I amso sorry how you feel. Both your mother and I feel your anger and wish things would have been better for you. We just want you to know that our love for you is unconditional and we will always be here for you. Life is very short and happiness is what is most important. I hope you will find in your heart to someday forgive us. Your mom and I both love you very much and wish the best for you and your beautiful family. Please remember we are here for you always. Your loving father." My hope this will touch his heart so he will speak to us so we can talk this out. This is why I hate this cult so much. It ruins the best of intentions. With a very sad heart. Totally ADD
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I don't get it ... 80% of people in Oklahoma DON'T have a Tornado Shelter. Are they nuts ????
by RubaDub ini really don't understand.
how can any homeowner in his right mind, not have a tornado shelter ???
i understand that some people live in apartments and condos, but someone with any size yard (even a driveway) could have a shelter.. to me it's a no-brainer.
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Sorry jgnat hurricane strength winds start at 75 miles per hour which is a cat. 1 hurricane all the way up to 150 miles plus which is a cat. 5 hurricane. Weather experts have found hurricanes at cat.5 will form tornados along it's eye wall which makes them even more destrutive. But you are right tornado's can have alot more wind power that a hurricane the olny diffrence is tornado cover alot smaller area than a hurricane. Personally I would rather go through a hurricane than a tornado. I have been through both. F one tornado and a cat 1 hurricane. Both at the bottom of their scale but the tornado did a whole lot more damage in a very short period of time. Totally ADD
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I don't get it ... 80% of people in Oklahoma DON'T have a Tornado Shelter. Are they nuts ????
by RubaDub ini really don't understand.
how can any homeowner in his right mind, not have a tornado shelter ???
i understand that some people live in apartments and condos, but someone with any size yard (even a driveway) could have a shelter.. to me it's a no-brainer.
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A cordding to the Weather Channel the cost for a shelter runs about $4,000 to $8,000. Because of the soil they have basements do not work there. The land is flat the soil is clay whice holds lots of water. So if you had a basement it would be wet and moldy. For most the cost is expensvie. Maybe when they build their houses again it will include a tornado shelter. Totally ADD
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The new light re 1919 appointment of FDS demolishes the 'one true religion' concept
by yadda yadda 2 inanother poster on here called separation of powers made a profound comment on another thread recently that i thought was worthy of starting a new thread about:.
"in my opinion, the new light regarding the fds addresses this question, if there was no fds from the 3rd century on until 1918, and yet the article states that there were anointed followers here and there during that almost 2000 years of no fds, then what organization did they follow?
there was no organization, yet they were anointed per the article.
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I think it would be easier to prove there is a tea cup that ordits the sun that prove anything the WT has to say. On thing the old drunk was right on was reglion is a snare and a racket. I mean Rutherford whose the drunk not snare&racket. Totally ADD
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What's The Psychological Harm Done To Children Raised In The Watchtower Doomsday Cult?
by frankiespeakin inlet's see what the governing body of this doomsday cult teach that strongly effects children:.
forbids higher education.
shun non-jehovah witnesses or worldly people.
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The abuse the WT borg has given out to us as children to todays children in the cult has been monumental. Subjects that only adults should hear, forced to stay awake on week night meetings when one should be in bed, abuse by parents because you acted up and couldn't sit still, elders sexually abusing little girls and boys, threats by parents if you don't answer at the meeting, threats by elders because you are acting your age, threats by the outside world because you are diffrent, being forced to go door to door and sell WT maz. by yourself, neglect by your parents and the congregation, your life in jeopardy because you need blood and finally the nightmares of dying because you can't be good enough. On and On and On and On. The psycholgical harm is so great those who went through it will live with these scars until they die. Totally ADD
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Would the Watchtower agree with Pat Robertson on this?
by Terry inon the q&a portion of his tv show, pat robertson was asked by a woman how she can forgive her husband for cheating on her.. she said she had tried and failed to do so.. robertson started by saying the wife needed to understand: "he's a man.".
robertson then interjected, saying, heres the secret, looked into the camera, and said (in a slightly exasperated tone), stop.
talking.
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Will, the WT wants us to forgive sexual abusers of children. So yes I think the WT would agree with Pat Robertson except to them he belongs to a demon religion so they would not admit to it. Totally ADD
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What does your screen name/avatar mean and what does it stand for
by BU2B inand why did you choose it?
if you have a avatar, what is it and why did you pick it?.
ok ill start.
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When I first wanted to sign on my wife ask me what name I wanted to go by? That afternoon I watch a PBS program on ADD and their was this book they was pushing which was called " Totally ADD and Loving it." Having ADD, the name just click. As far as the avatar it was just given to me by JWN. But when I first saw it I thought that is exactly how I would dream I would look like when I am having a ADD melt down. Totally ADD