I fully agree with Snare & Racket...my parents converted when I was 4 and I can't remember not being a JW. Never celebrated "pagan" holidays or birthdays. I woke up in my mid 50's and today I realize what I missed in life outweights the "benefits" of being a JW. Just a few examples: freedom to think and act freely - not having to tow the WT party line, to be able to express love for family members who don't share my beliefs - I shunned my daughter for 10 years...10 years I can't make up for. I was talented at school but in the mid 60's I was told not to waste the few remaining years getting an education because the end was here. For the longest time I believed the "truth" protected me from turning into a worthless person or a criminal and that the education I was receiving in the organisation was special. Sure, I learned how to speak in public and how to sell ideas to others...but several people I work with learned the same skills in college or university and they did it in 4 years while I spent a whole lifetime attending meetings where the same things are taught week after week....and by the way, where is my diploma? Some have said that no one forces us into the cult...I agree, but the brainwashing is gradual and painless...until you are so conditioned that you would forfit your life or the life of your children by refusing a blood transfusion...Suicide bomber in other religions are not forced either!
Posts by NVR2L8
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9Things we missed out on :(
by lilbluekitty inanyone else get really mad sometimes about the fact that we missed out on proms, dances, sports games, being in sports, being in band, being in clubs, or going to college, or even getting good grades since armageddon was always "right around the corner"?
even if i went to college this year (at age 28), i'd be 10 years behind everyone my age!
i'm still going to go back but i feel so upset sometimes how far behind my peers i am in just about everything, including in the working world, where i am an entry-level employee with only a high school diploma (thankfully i didn't quit school to pioneer!!
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In All Honesty Would You Have NOT Given Blood To Your Child If He or She Needed it?
by minimus inas a "faithful witness", i never had to deal with this on a personal level.
i imagine the pressure must be extreme with the elders and others "supporting" you to do the right thing.. do you think you would have given blood to your family member, especially your child if you were in that situation..
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When I was 6 my dad was in an accident and doctors told mom that without blood he would die...dad fought the doctors and pulled the iv needle out of his arm...until they tied him down to be able to give him non-blood serum. He had his mind made up to die as a JW hero and I am 100% convinced he would have expected the same from us. Of course his survival was attributed to Jehovah and not the doctors...
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Another New Member
by lriddle80 ini have been out of the "truth" for about 13 years, but 9 of those years i was someone who was out but thinking i would probably go back at some point...out but not all the way out mentally.
my family are still active members and i am a little bit shunned, not invited to family get togethers, that sort of thing.
i was one of those people that left and then did drugs and partied for a while.
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Welcome Iriddle80 and all new members. I also pray god to keep me from coming to this apostate website...but he hasn't yet been able to even crash my old PC!
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For the born-in/raised in, you ever get resentful upon seeing kids involved with organized sports?
by Theocratic Sedition inthis past saturday, i was watching the georgetown/syracuse game, and a nike commercial was played during one of the breaks.
i couldn't locate the exact commercial, but below is a variation of it that has scenes from the same one that aired on saturday.
man did i feel some heavy resentment towards the wt during and especially after the commercial aired.
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I love hockey but wasn't allowed to play in organized leagues because they had links to the parrish and the games and practices could interfere with meetings and service. One of the local teams I could have played on was where NY Islander's Mike Bossy started. After I turned 18 I played in industrial leagues and quickly realized that I was quite good despite being the shortest player on the team! 40 years later, I still play twice a week and still ask myself where my determination could have taken me...Today I'm not only the shortest player, but also the oldest on the team!
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Where is Jehovah?
by His Excellency inhow do we reconcile those bullshits being told at the meetings about how jehovah's eyes are upon us and how his figurative wings serves as protection to those who are destitute with the condition of these sickly sudanese refugees at this camp.. .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oihlh1xd2lu&feature=g-all-u.
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Mouthy I will not supply any rocks for your garden...I have way too much respect for you! At this time I have not been able to disassociate the belief in a god from the WT lies...so I abstain from believing.
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Where is Jehovah?
by His Excellency inhow do we reconcile those bullshits being told at the meetings about how jehovah's eyes are upon us and how his figurative wings serves as protection to those who are destitute with the condition of these sickly sudanese refugees at this camp.. .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oihlh1xd2lu&feature=g-all-u.
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He's with the Easter bunny, tooth fairy, Santa Claus and the Boogeyman and living in Caleb's imagination...sorry he is not allowed to have imagination with the exception of being Jehovah's friend...
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POLL: How long did you remain a JW from point of baptism to leaving the KH
by Terry ini was baptised --1963. left in 1978. fifteen years.
pre-baptism, another 5 years.
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43 years
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At over 60 years in the Cult, Is Lois Lane the Longest serving JW wake up here?
by cantleave ini was in 42 years and thought that was a long time.
do you know anyone else who woke up after being in 60 or 70 years?
it gives me hope that maybe my mum will wake up..................................
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No regrets,
The talk was You can be secure in an unsafe world...and it highlighted some of the elements that threatens our lives such as natural disasters. I started looking for the latest stats on earthquakes and quickly realized the WT claims of a drastic increase since 1914 were bogus. What else could the WT lie about was my next question...Alarm bells were already ringing when I had given a service meeting part on how we should only use the WT publications to do research or when we started having a special issue of the Wt for study only. Then the book study was fitted in the midweek meeting transforming it into a form of speed-meeting that lost all meanings...flood gates were now fully open...
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At over 60 years in the Cult, Is Lois Lane the Longest serving JW wake up here?
by cantleave ini was in 42 years and thought that was a long time.
do you know anyone else who woke up after being in 60 or 70 years?
it gives me hope that maybe my mum will wake up..................................
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Cantleave,
My mom will turn 80 this year and she is still pioneering...Since my dad died almost 10 years ago she has become obsessed with service and meetings. She has no other hobbies or passtimes than cult-related activities and she has no time for a normal live. My younger brother who has never been in the truth recently became a grand father and he wanted to come and visit mom with his grand son...well although she always complains that he never visits her, she gave him a specific time to come since all other days she is out in service or at the meetings...so my brother said that he wasn't going to go out in service just to be with her.
So trying to help mom to free herself from the cult would be taking away her sole reason to live. I live 600 km from mom and I haven't told her how I feel about the JWs...I think she knows I am inactive...and if I was to DA or be DF she would be very hurt...
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NVR2L8
If your "brothers and sisters" in the congregation are more important than your "unbelieving" family and relatives, it's a cult.