Posts by NVR2L8

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South Australian Judge Saves Life of Young Girl By Ordering Blood Transfusion

by cedars in

this story has been brought to my attention, and i thought i would share it with you all.. a very poorly young jehovah's witness girl in south australia has been ordered to have a blood transfusion.

the court heard that the girl, who suffers from leukaemia, would die "within weeks" if she were deprived of the life-saving treatment.. the parents appear to have put up a tacit fight for their rights to be respected, but their solicitor made some telling remarks when he said:.

"it's not like they are acting with callous disregard for her wellbeing or her future,".

NVR2L8

The conversation would go that way:

Dad: We loved you so much that we did all we could for you not to have a blood transfusion, leaving you in the care of Jehovah...

Daughter: But dad, what were my chances of survival if I didn't receive the blood?

Dad: The doctors said that you would die within a few weeks, but they don't count on Jehovah's help...

Daughter: What your are telling me is that we wouldn't be having this conversation if the authorities didn't intervene?

Dad: But we would have been reunited in resurection!

.....a few months later....

Daughter: I no longer believe in the WT...

Dad: We will shun you because we love you...and we want you back....

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South Australian Judge Saves Life of Young Girl By Ordering Blood Transfusion

by cedars in

this story has been brought to my attention, and i thought i would share it with you all.. a very poorly young jehovah's witness girl in south australia has been ordered to have a blood transfusion.

the court heard that the girl, who suffers from leukaemia, would die "within weeks" if she were deprived of the life-saving treatment.. the parents appear to have put up a tacit fight for their rights to be respected, but their solicitor made some telling remarks when he said:.

"it's not like they are acting with callous disregard for her wellbeing or her future,".

NVR2L8

The conversation would go that way:

Dad: We loved you so much that we did all we could for you not to have a blood transfusion, leaving you in the care of Jehovah...

Daughter: But dad, what were my chances of survival if I didn't receive the blood?

Dad: The doctors said that you would die within a few weeks, but they don't count on Jehovah's help...

Daughter: What your are telling me is that we wouldn't be having this conversation if the authorities didn't intervene?

Dad: But we would have been reunited in resurection!

.....a few months later....

Daughter: I no longer believe in the WT...

Dad: We will shun you because we love you...and we want you back....

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What year did the Watchtower start saying taking blood transfusion is a "conscience matter"?

by Iamallcool in

NVR2L8

Yknot....nice to have you back!

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What year did the Watchtower start saying taking blood transfusion is a "conscience matter"?

by Iamallcool in

NVR2L8

My understanding is that it went from a disfellowshipping offense to a disassociation...

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Judge Orders Transfusion for Jehovah's Witness Girl with Cancer

by ZeusRocks in

here's a link to the story from last night.. http://www.news.com.au/national/judge-forces-jehovahs-witness-parents-to-allow-transfusions-for-daughter-with-cancer/story-e6frfkvr-1226380955006.

i'm so glad i never needed one as a child.

even as an adult i still believed everything taught, but i think if faced with an early death, i would have caved and had a transfusion if it was deemed necessary for my survival.. i think even though the parents of this girl gave the standard jw response when questioned, i can't help but think they must feel at the very least, a little relieved that the decision is now out of their hands.

NVR2L8

Great news because this little girl is given a chance at life...a few years from now she may even thank the judge that ordered the blood transfusion! A few months ago I read a news article that was linked to one post from this site where an ex JW seeked out the lawyer that petition the court on her behalf when she was just a baby in need of medical treatment her JW parents would authorize. Some 30 years after the fact she was able to express her gratitude to the lawyer who cared enough to save her life...

A few years ago a WT lawyer gave a public talk in our congregation, relating the heroic display of faith of Bethany Hughes, a teenager who refused blood transfusion on religious grounds...we even heard a recorded interview of Bethany. Today I sympathize with her father who left the faith and desperately attempted to withdraw his daughter from the grip of the WT cult to save her life. But he had no chance because the mother and very present WT lawyer made sure she wouldn't disapoint them....and Jehovah of course....

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You can take your three day quickbuild and shove it...

by Aaron Eldridge in

jw
friends

there is a christian organisation that builds churches in one day, oddly enough they are called church in a day.

so much for the quickbuild being used as proof of god's divine order working through the organisation.. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/29/faithful-volunteers-build-church-in-one-day-in-iowa/.

NVR2L8

Our quick-build hall dating 1987 is full of mold because it was built in the rain...and after a cosmetic renovation all they did is to cover up the mold with paint and wallpaper...$50K wasted. After 3 weeks the novelty had already wore off and the general look of the KHall still was outdated...

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NHL Playoffs: who ya got puckheads?

by unshackled in

jw
friends

greetings my fellow fans of the frozen pond and old-time hockey.. it's time for the playoffs beard!.

so let's pick 'em.

who will be drinking from lord stanley's mug this year?

NVR2L8

Player introduction...I am not a fan of either team but I hope New Jersey wins it...for Martin Brodeur and because it's the Devils...

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NHL Playoffs: who ya got puckheads?

by unshackled in

jw
friends

greetings my fellow fans of the frozen pond and old-time hockey.. it's time for the playoffs beard!.

so let's pick 'em.

who will be drinking from lord stanley's mug this year?

NVR2L8

Player introduction...I am not a fan of either team but I hope New Jersey wins it...for Martin Brodeur and because it's the Devils...

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Germany: Huddled together on May 30, 2012 by phone hookup (Warren Sheweldt)

by bats in the belfry in

all the german jws are ordered to their kh wednesday evening to listen to a warren sheweldt.

never heard of him.

this is what one of the local papers printed in their religious section (google-translated from german):.

NVR2L8

Warren Shewfelt is a Canadian who served as a CO when I lived in Montreal. He served at the Canadian Branch and in East-Europe and there is a picture of him being hit during a mob attack at the K-Hall in one of the WT discussing JW being persecuted in Georgia (or Belarus). I don't have the WT CDROM but if you search his name you may find the article...

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23 scientists misquoted by the ever so deceitful Watchtower society

by Reality79 in

apologies if this has already been posted, but i actually found this to be an interesting and even funny read!.

http://www.tj-encyclopedie.org/blatant_misquotes_in_the_origin_of_life_booklet.

*edit* sorry you will have to copy and paste link, the icon to insert url isn't working for me for some reason......

NVR2L8

Merci beaucoup!