Posts by Hoffnung

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All Things Fulffilled In The1st Century

by maccauk11 in

all things were fulfilled in the 1st century.it was obvious the messiah was talking to the people in that generation not a generation 2000 years later.. christianity has for 2000 years placed itself in the shoes of those 1st century beleivers and think all things pertainott hem today.when infact none of it does.

the prohecise of the messiah cmae true in the 1st century including revelation which is symbolic, metaphorical apocolyptic language showing all tha thad been done .

the kingdom is here.the king rules and has done for 2000 years.

Hoffnung

I agree with quite a lot of what cassuk11 wrote. The biggest problem I see, is that it is generally accepted that the book of Revelation was written in the last 5 years of the 1st century (which I am not going to doubt, there are no tangible indications that it has been written earlier). to have the letter or scroll circulated throughout the congregations would take also a considerable amount of time. hence it is logic to look towards a fulfilment somewhere around 125 AD. The only candidate for this, would be the more complete destruction of Jerusalem in 132 AD I believe. Apparantly it was that bad that the romans had a plow going over the remains of Jerusalem. It also at this point that christians got thrown out of the synagogues. Unfortunately this period is less documented than the destruction in 70.

However I believe also that the return of Jesus happened in 70, and that God stopped his detailed dealings with humans latest about 60 years later. Death has been overcome by resurrection, and not by eternal life in the flesh or by lifting of bodies into heaven. The Kingdom was founded at or around pentecost 33, there is no reason whatsoever that it should not have happened very shortly after the ransom was paid. There is absolutely no foundation whatsoever to project any of this to our time. Unfortunately we are just humans with a mortal body, that can get a resurrection into a spritual one, which implicates we will live our lives until we die, and only then can enter the spiritual realm as described in the bible. Big daddy is not going to come to miracoulously intervene in our life time to give us an eternal life on this planet.

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Twin Explosions at Boston Marathon

by BizzyBee in

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/15/boston-marathon-explosion_n_3086665.html.

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right at the finish line - seems too coincidental to be anything other than a purposeful act.

Hoffnung

Looks more like homegrown act of terror to me. Or if from foreign ground, I would expect some irish issue or so, not from islamic fundies. But my guess is as good as yours. Sad and tragic for the people involved.

Hoffnung

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3rd Oil Spill This Week

by designs in

exxon, shell, and canadian pacific railway all had oil spills reported this week.

exxon and shell's oil spills were from ruptured pipelines and canadian pacific had a railcar accident.. the exxon spill flooded streets and the yards of homes outside of little rock arkansas and the shell spill occured outside houston texas near the vince bayou.

residents of the little rock community never knew that high pressure pipelines ran under their homes which is a disturbing fact being discovered more and more.

Hoffnung

My working area is aircraft maintenance, and more particularly the organizing and recording of it. If there is anything you can take away from this, than it is most certainly that for any known continuous hazard, which is often unavoidable,you need a maintenance program to bring it under control, a schedule of inspections and other maintenance actions ( like replacing filters and verifying the operation of valves) that have to be done at periodic intervals. The historic record of decreasing aircraft accidents demonstrate it pays off, despite an exponential increase of aircraft movements. The absence of an adequate maintenance program always leads to disasters. Some big oil corporations have not yet learned their lessons and will have to foot a huge bill for this, let alone the local people and the fauna and flora involved, who might have to pay with their lives. quite unacceptable. The incidents reported in the last few weeks certainly could be avoided, and the companies involved have the money to do what is necessary.

Hoffnung

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3rd Oil Spill This Week

by designs in

exxon, shell, and canadian pacific railway all had oil spills reported this week.

exxon and shell's oil spills were from ruptured pipelines and canadian pacific had a railcar accident.. the exxon spill flooded streets and the yards of homes outside of little rock arkansas and the shell spill occured outside houston texas near the vince bayou.

residents of the little rock community never knew that high pressure pipelines ran under their homes which is a disturbing fact being discovered more and more.

Hoffnung

It is not against the presence of pipelines, it is about knowing they are there and their inherent potential dangers (also called risks), which you then can inquire about. Certainly all off these spills could be avoided or brought under control motre efficiently, had there been adequate maintenance. if you are not informed you are exposed against threats you don't want to be exposed to.

Hoffnung

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going to Crawley UK from 3 to 5 april. Interested in meeting up for drink/food?

by Hoffnung in

jw
friends

i will be going to crawley next week from 3 to 5 april.

i have to go there for work, so i will be occupied during the day, but free on wednesday and thursday night.

is someone interested to meet up with me for food and/or drink?

Hoffnung

Btt

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going to Crawley UK from 3 to 5 april. Interested in meeting up for drink/food?

by Hoffnung in

jw
friends

i will be going to crawley next week from 3 to 5 april.

i have to go there for work, so i will be occupied during the day, but free on wednesday and thursday night.

is someone interested to meet up with me for food and/or drink?

Hoffnung

Pams Girl: Thanks for bumping :)

Cantleave: Thanks for replying, maybe it works out another time. Would be nice.

Cheers

Hoffnung

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going to Crawley UK from 3 to 5 april. Interested in meeting up for drink/food?

by Hoffnung in

jw
friends

i will be going to crawley next week from 3 to 5 april.

i have to go there for work, so i will be occupied during the day, but free on wednesday and thursday night.

is someone interested to meet up with me for food and/or drink?

Hoffnung

Hi,

I will be going to Crawley next week from 3 to 5 april. I have to go there for work, so I will be occupied during the day, but free on Wednesday and Thursday night. Is someone interested to meet up with me for food and/or drink? please PM me.

Hoffnung

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Romans 13:1 Russian opposition

by sidex in

jw
friends

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hello, yes my question is not settled.. and i want to repeat it.

who knows about the different groups of jehovah's witnesses in the united states.. when and where were the division and what reasons..

Hoffnung

Hi Sidex,

The issue concerning the changed doctrine about the superior authorities caused many divisions in countries linked to communism. Romania was especially affected. Understandable, since saying that the "superior authorities" are state agencies and have to be obeyed, would feel like treason to them. However in the US and other western countries, this change was not viewed as problematic, and as far as I know it did not cause divisions to the point that groups would brake away.

Hoffnung

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Are the Witnesses Really Losing Their Young People?

by What Now? in

that article about jehovah's witnesses having the lowest retention rate for born ins keeps popping up every now again ... i'm just curious if any of you have noticed that this is actually the case.

in the congregation that i grew up in, i'm going to say that 95% of the young people in their teens to mid twenties are either regular pioneering, regular auxiliary pioneering, serving in foreign language congregations or where the need is greater.

both of my younger sisters are regular pioneers - and the young people in their hall even organize 8 pm to midnight service on friday nights of their own accord.

Hoffnung

verifying retention rate objectively is not easy either, since small doubts in the late teens with some added kicks in the butt might lead to leaving the religion at 35. if i look at youngsters from around 20, about 60% is still there, but once you take this up to youngsters we still remember that are now around 30, then 70% has left, if not more. the lack of quality of the content in WT publications and the lack of social activity organized by the congregation are definitely contributing. Some just don't fit in the kind JW life, and would have left anyway, even if everything was done right. their effort to keep up the appearance of being gods only mouthpiece is going to drive 1000's away, no matter how good their mind control techniques are. most witnesses have at least once in their life the need to verify if the truth is what it claims to be, and then it is game over for the WTBS

Hoffnung

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Part 1 of the 2013 Conti and Simons interview now on YouTube (questions posed by JWN members)

by cedars in

a while back we ran a "competition" whereby people could pose questions of candace conti and rick simons for them to answer in a video.. there were so many questions that we needed to do a series rather than just one video.

this first instalment is now on youtube.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhvfefpig4a.

here are the questions that were answered.... (to rick, asked by "exwhyzee") is there a possibility that part of the ruling, if you overcome the appeal, will be that the society must make an announcement outlining the details of the case to its members, as well as an apology to candace?.

Hoffnung

Thanks Cedars, and of course Candace and her lawyer to set time aside for this.

I loved the remark from Rick that the WT was now as polite and professional to them as they should have been to Candace to begin with

Looking forward to the next installments.

Hoffnung