The Steiman family from the 1914 leaflet is not dead???
DagothUr
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WE CAN DO THIS....if you think the idea is as good as I do!
by Terry ini have long had an idea that i think is a very powerful tool in reaching even hard-nosed jw's.. .
it would consist only of actual photographic scans of various documents, articles, photographs such as these from marvin shilmer's blog: (see next panel).
there would be no extraneous non-official text whatsoever.. it would be published the size of an old life magazine and sent anonymously to jw's at their homes.. the cover would clearly contain the words: "all contents originally published by watchtower bible &tract society".
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Marrying out of the truth poem!
by DagothUr inmarrying out of the truth !!.
(author's name removed to protect privacy).
he or she-- doesn't love jehovah .
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DagothUr
We should have a Theocratic Poetry Thread.
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WT Nov. 1, 2011 (public) - When Was Ancient Jerusalem Destroyed - Part 2
by AnnOMaly inout now.. yes, yes, yessssss!
on p. 26-27 they talk about how the lunar positions on vat 4956 fit 588/7 bce!!!.
"clearly, much of the astronomical data in vat 4956 fits the year 588 b.c.e.
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DagothUr
WTF? If it's 588/587, how can it also be 607???!!!
Yea, the Bible is the word of Jehovah! Why? Because He says so! Where? Right here, in the Bible! And how do we know we can trust the Bible? Because it's the word of God. Who says that? Jehovah himself! Where? In the Bible! And so on ad infinitum.
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Mass Apostasy- Sign of the Lords presence
by mankkeli inthis quote is from the watchtower 1980 8/1.
"are you profoundly shocked and unduly disturbed when you see or hear of a christian you know yielding to doubts, cooling off and perhaps even becoming rebellious to the point of deserting the christian congregation and trying to draw others away with him?
if so, you may be comforted in knowing that, sad as such occurrences may be, the scriptures forewarn us that they will happen.. among the various causes of apostasy, one of the foremost is unquestionably a lackoffaith through doubt.
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DagothUr
I don't like to start the fire myself, but I like to throw in some gasoline, once it's started.
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Marking?? WTH is that?
by Free!! ini was a baptized jw for about 6 years in a spanish congregation.. and i never ever ever heard anything about "marking"... what is that??
i knew someone can be disfellowshipped, publicly/privately reproved or dissasociated themselves.. but i never heard of marking.. can someone please care to explain that term to me?.
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DagothUr
That is what I have been told by my study conductor, who was a very spiritual person (according to the Dubs standards): marking is worse because of the unrepentant attitude of the wrongdoer. The gravity of the sin is irrelevant. What is rellevant is if you still aknowledge the authority of Jehovah, of the slave and of the elders.
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Marrying out of the truth poem!
by DagothUr inmarrying out of the truth !!.
(author's name removed to protect privacy).
he or she-- doesn't love jehovah .
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DagothUr
Marrying out of the truth !!
(Author's name removed to protect privacy)
HE OR SHE-- DOESN'T LOVE JEHOVAH
Marrying out of the Truth: Does it set you free?
I'd like to tell you a story, about true love at last.
It's very informative and has an interesting cast.
So pay close attention, it's sad but true,
And don't ever think this can't happen to you.
I met him during lunch break on a sunny day,
He sat next to me and smiled, as I was about to pray.
We talked on and on. He was such a gentleman.
I wished that this moment would never end.
Ah, but then it came to be the end of my lunch hour
I tell you when he stood up; he looked just like a tower!
We met again and again. Our souls began to cling.
I pondered in my mind, 'Is this the REAL thing?'
He doesn't smoke or drink, or gamble away his money.
He doesn't do drugs or things like that and he's nobody's 'honey'.
Let's face it, he's fine and he's really got a great 'bod'.
The only thing that's missing is he doesn't serve Jehovah God.
I'll just give him a chance, he'll change in time.
I won't mind being 'his', if he'd like to be 'mine'.
My friends tried to warn me. I didn't listen or care.
Little did I know my life would be one of despair.
The wedding was fine. The judge married us in the fall.
You see, I couldn't have a wedding in a Kingdom Hall
My dad, no, he didn't give me away.
With the pain in his heart, he didn't have much to say.
Mom listens to me, please don't cry and whine.
Don't worry about us, we'll be just fine.
I've got a good man and he has a good job.
The only thing is, he doesn't serve Jehovah God.
Everything is going fine, but recently at night.
When it's time for the meeting, we just fuss and fight.
He says, 'Who's this God, breaking us apart?
Don't go tonight dear, please follow your heart.'
So I listen and stay, to keep peace at home.
But now oftentimes, I feel so all-alone.
I don't associate with the friends much at all,
To keep peace at home, I don't go to the Hall.
Service and Meetings, all that is history.
Today, I decorated my first Holiday Tree.
The holiday celebrations are now part of my life.
You see, I must obey my husband, for I am his wife.
The brothers would call. I wouldn't answer the door.
I don't read the magazines. Reading is such a bore.
Marrying out of the Truth, it really sets you 'free'.
'Free' from Jehovah's love that once was in me.
I just got the news! I'm having a 'little one'!
I can hardly wait to tell my dear 'Hon'.
He was in a bad mood. He lost his job that day.
He told me as he hit me, 'That's just one more bill to pay!'
Then he apologized, 'I'm sorry, please forgive me Dear'
You see, I've heard those words more often than I'd like to hear.
I have two jobs now. I must support my household.
My husband says he'll find work, but now that's getting old.
I'm tired. I'm stressed. I'm feeling very strange.
My schedule at both jobs, I'll have to rearrange.
I should be very happy; the baby is due any day.
Things just have to get better, somehow, some way .
I'm married to this man, for better or for worse.
The only problem is, he doesn't put Jehovah first.
The baby came today, she's so little and so light.
She's not crying or making noise, something's just not right.
'What could be wrong?' I thought aloud as I lay in bed.
In came the doctor looking sad, and then he shook his head. '
Mrs. Unbeliever,' he said, 'there's something I must confess.'
You and the baby tested positive to the new HIV test.
I started crying. I couldn't believe the words the doctor said.
To know that in a very short time, my child and I'd be dead!
Listen to me! All of you! I'm telling you to your face!
To marry an Unbeliever, is a TOTAL DISGRACE!
To Jehovah, our loving father, who provides for his sheep.
That's why he sets the guidelines for us to hold and to keep
Wait on Jehovah. In his due time He'll set things straight.
Be patient and He'll give you a Theocratic mate.
One who loves Jehovah and you know that he'll do right.
One who'll be there with you when it comes to 'Meeting' night.
A worldly man has nothing to offer - really nothing at all
But unhappiness, sadness, sorrow, and a very serious fall.
So be wise my Sisters, and please don't try to rush things.
Wait patiently on Jehovah, and accept the blessings he brings.
Don't look to worldly men as mates, at your job or at the Mall.
REMEMBER! Brothers that serve Jehovah are at the Kingdom Hall.The dubs like stupid poems! Anyway, we have a new animal in the Ark: the Theocratic mate.
It's from the JW Talk Forum.
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I've stopped my bible study but....
by PenelopePaige inthe lady i studied with asked if it would be okay if she still brought the magazines by.
i said of course because i do love the awake and watchtower.
well, when she came by last week, she gave me the mags and then as we stood around chit-chatting, i realized we were basically still having the study, only we were standing up instead of sitting in the living room.
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DagothUr
I was also drawn into this religion by my sympathy for the conductor of my study. Because he was so amiable, I never had the heart to stop the study. Later I came to regret the decision. After I dissasociated myself, he no longer spoke with me. The JWs have no feelings, just the desire to use your feelings in order to convert you.
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12,000 year old cave drawing found in South Wales
by Mickey mouse inhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-14721056.
that's got to be a mistake, right?
man's only been on earth for half of that time.
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DagothUr
Impossible. Man was created 6000 years ago.
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Mass Apostasy- Sign of the Lords presence
by mankkeli inthis quote is from the watchtower 1980 8/1.
"are you profoundly shocked and unduly disturbed when you see or hear of a christian you know yielding to doubts, cooling off and perhaps even becoming rebellious to the point of deserting the christian congregation and trying to draw others away with him?
if so, you may be comforted in knowing that, sad as such occurrences may be, the scriptures forewarn us that they will happen.. among the various causes of apostasy, one of the foremost is unquestionably a lackoffaith through doubt.
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DagothUr
Organiza-Shun? That must be a new limerick...And it's funny too.
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Testing, testing, testing.....Jehovah TESTS?
by Terry ina classroom teacher has to administer tests.
the teacher doesn't know who is learning and who isn't or how much.. a test pilot flys a new jet to determine what strengths and weaknesses correspond to the design because nobody knows how close.
the manufacture of it came to the ideal.. fire drills are a test: can everybody exit in an orderly fashion in a reasonable amount of time in case there is a fire.. if you think you may be pregant you take a pregnancy test because you won't know for sure otherwise (unless you wait 9 months!).
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DagothUr
I think the signs during the Great Plague were more convincing than the ones we have today.