Why are all angels in JW publications male? I was thinking about this today, as I notice other Christian religions show angels as male and female. Do you think that this was another way of showing how males were superior to females in their teaching, or that their god "Jehovah" was more favorable to the male appearance.
Also, why did Jesus have to be a man? Why was Abraham considered the beginning of the Jewish nation, when he only provided half of the project to make a baby? Why was Adam tempted by a woman, and not by himself? Better yet, why is God always shown as a man?
Ever wonder these things? Is Judaism and Christianity sexist?
Just wondering
kenpodragon
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Why are all angels in JW publications male?
by kenpodragon inwhy are all angels in jw publications male?
i was thinking about this today, as i notice other christian religions show angels as male and female.
do you think that this was another way of showing how males were superior to females in their teaching, or that their god "jehovah" was more favorable to the male appearance.
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Why so much mental illness among JW's?
by cherjcd ini have just added an audio tape on mental illness among jehovah's witnesses by jerry bergman.
http://www.jwinfoline.com/page/audio_tapes_of_month.htm.
it is interesting to hear the reasons why jehovah's witnesses have a much higher rate of mental illness than the normal population.
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kenpodragon
I have no mental illness and neither does the rest of me. ;)
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kenpodragon
Perhaps it is the GB. You know how they love to put "..." in ever quote they ever do.
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Do some people love trauma and tragedy?
by kenpodragon ini have never considered myself to be full of a bunch of trauma and tragedy.
at least when i compare it to some.. have you ever known the type of people though, that always have something new happening that is traumatic.
you know the type, if it isn't a sick child it is a argument.
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kenpodragon
Oh, I know they suffer. I just do not want to suffer with them to the point that my life is in a mess. I tend to stay away and erase them from my life. I know they will be upset, but it's like putting down a 100lb back pack. You feel lighter and more able to move.
Take Care
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Do some people love trauma and tragedy?
by kenpodragon ini have never considered myself to be full of a bunch of trauma and tragedy.
at least when i compare it to some.. have you ever known the type of people though, that always have something new happening that is traumatic.
you know the type, if it isn't a sick child it is a argument.
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kenpodragon
I have never considered myself to be full of a bunch of trauma and tragedy. At least when I compare it to some.
Have you ever known the type of people though, that always have something new happening that is traumatic. You know the type, if it isn't a sick child it is a argument. Then they always have a possibility of disease in them, or someone they know. Everything offends them, so no matter what they are depressed and ready to argue. No one agrees with their thinking, so no matter what they are always on the opposing side ... even though their views tend to change at times to keep their track record negative.
I had a employee like this once. In the time she worked for me, one year, she never had a moment of peace. She used all of her sick leave in one month, had her kids in the doctors office monthly and it never failed that she was upset with me. The day I fired her, my wife and I went out and celebrated with a dinner. For her, it was just "one more thing!"
Do you know the type? Do you see them online at times too? If so, what do you think of them. Do you try to help them, only to be frustrated that they always have some new problem to replace the one you fixed. With them hating you anyway, and starting rumors about you to get into another battle they thrive for.
What do you think?
Just wondering
Dragon
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"No thanks, have fun"
by kenpodragon inone key moment i remember as being a witness was this time i met this family that was visiting from california.
they were friends of some people we knew in the hall, and thus we spent a good amount of time with them the week they were here.
they had two polite daughters and the mom was one of those people who could sit and talk to for hours and hours.
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kenpodragon
Any positive experience can be turned into sounding like a JW experience with Jehovah involved. On the other hand, it can also make you wonder if the universe is far more wonderful then we imagined. Without all the Gods and judgment we were taught in the churches.
Personally, I felt perhaps I was "lucky" or I just had a little guardian angel or spirit guide looking out for me, perhaps because I had not accomplished yet what I wanted to in life. Interesting, those accomplishments have happened after I left and are still opening up. Of course, I could not see that then ... but looking back I do.
Take Care
Dragon
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Look what I found
by RR in.
look at what i found, and it's clean too: .
edited by - rr on 13 september 2002 23:2:43.
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kenpodragon
Did they use those in the USA?
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"No thanks, have fun"
by kenpodragon inone key moment i remember as being a witness was this time i met this family that was visiting from california.
they were friends of some people we knew in the hall, and thus we spent a good amount of time with them the week they were here.
they had two polite daughters and the mom was one of those people who could sit and talk to for hours and hours.
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One key moment I remember as being a Witness was this time I met this family that was visiting from California. They were friends of some people we knew in the hall, and thus we spent a good amount of time with them the week they were here. They had two polite daughters and the mom was one of those people who could sit and talk to for hours and hours. The husband was really cool, we sat and drank beers and talked about some hunting trips he went on. He was training to be a pilot, which is what the man we knew was, and he wanted to go flying around Southern Oregon. Ever meet someone you only knew for a short time, but you hit it off great with them. This was one of those meetings. We did not talk religion, and we did not talk gossip, it was just three men sitting at the table playing some cards and shooting the breeze.
Well the week went on and our friend decided he wanted to take his visitor up for a flight, and see what the rest of Oregon looked like from the air. If you are not familiar with this area, then you might not realize there are some amazing mountain lakes, waterfalls and other natural wonders to see. I had flown with my friend a couple of times and I know how cool it was to see all these things from the air. They invited me to come, but I had yard work and I had spent a lot of time visiting with them that week already and I wanted to get some things done on the weekend. Plus, since I was a Witnesses at the time ... I felt I better take Saturday morning to do some field service.
It was a beautiful Saturday and as I wasted another one going door to door, I was kind of jealous that I did not take the opportunity to go fly with my friends. It would have been a lot more fun then the preaching. I was the good little Witness though, and thus I did the typical Saturday 2-3 hours to get the required time in. I went to lunch after with my wife and we went home to get some things done. About 5PM we got a call from a person in the congregation telling us that the plane was missing and the guys had not come home yet. Honestly, even at that moment I knew they had crashed ... but some part of me decided they probably flew to Klamath Falls like we did one time before to refuel and prolong the day. It did not take long for the true news to hit, and the local news carried it at eleven. Their plane had technical difficulties and crashed in the forest near Crater Lake National Park, both men died instantly.
Of course the loss of a close friend was hard, but even harder was the fact that one minor decision in my life. Something as simple as, "no thanks, have fun" meant that I was here today and they were not. It might seem minor, as we make so many decision throughout a day, but as I set there at their memorials and watched their wives and children in the sadness and pain. I felt like I was seeing something that would have been my own wife, and my own family ... had I taken the flight, had I just decided to go. It was probably one of the oddest feelings I have ever had.
Few in the congregation or even among the people I knew, realized I had been invited. Only my wife and the wife of our friend knew as they were there when I said no. So there was never some big deal made about, this could have been you or you are so lucky to be alive. The thing is, I knew and that is what affected me. In time though there families moved away, and by the time I left the organization ... we did not even know each other anymore. Perhaps our friendships would have grown stronger had they lived, or perhaps they would have moved on as well. The one thing I know for sure though, is that when I look back at my life and I see these men of my past. I realize that unlike them, I would live to know. I would get the chance they didn't and for that, I am thankful.
Above all of that though, I still wish they never died.
Have you ever had one of those moments, where the difference between your life and your death, were as simple as turning left rather then right?
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Do You Like Where You Live?
by MegaDude ini'm writing this in dallas, texas.
as i write this, we're having another day of a grade red ozone alert.
in simple terms, our air quality is terrible.
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kenpodragon
I love the area I live at in Oregon, I have trees and beauty everywhere. Of course, I would always love a nicer home ... but I spend so little time there, it does not matter. I love living in Oregon!!
Dragon
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KIngdom Melodies
by freedom96 injust wondering if there were any good funny stories out there with the songs.. there always were the loud ones, the ones who thought they could sing.. i remember wrong songs being played on the record, then later tape, (are they on c/d yet?
) and people singing to it, but the wrong music, but they keep going anyways, especially when the "new song book" came out.. how about when the record would skip.. of course there were the brothers back there who so loved their "repsonsibility" in the hall, and took the "privledge" of doing the music so serious.. i remember back when they allowed someone to actually play the piano, she sometimes would jazz it up a little, and the congregation loved it, made it more lively, until they were chastised for it.. and then of course, no one could play live anymore, didn't want to make the musician too proud.
do you think that was really the reason?
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kenpodragon
The singing in the hall, just told me all the more that there are way to many tone deaf people in cults!!