Posts by kenpodragon

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Sexuality in men and women

by imissthedub in

after responding to the nekkid women thread i got to thinking that i would like to hear more thoughts on this.

am i alone in thinking that lots of women have as great of interest in sex as men?

that they love it just as much or more?

kenpodragon

Perfection Seeker,

Wouldn't life just be so much more fun if we could do what we wanted ;)

Dragon

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How many ex-JWs out there?

by EXJWBrit in

ok, i'm really green.

i heard about this site because of a link on the bbc website due to the paedophile stuff.

i'm a little confused.

kenpodragon

Here is my weird math, but it will make sense ...

The Witness loss on average 30,000 people to being DF'ed in the USA each year. That is 3% of the total Witnesses in the USA. That does not count people who walked away!!!!! Should also note, that few of these ever come back.

So if 2-3% is the world average (which seems realistic) then they loss about 120,000 - 180,000 each year. So between 1990 - Now, they have lost close to a million at least. Since 1975, I am sure the number is closer to 1.5-2 million.

Just some odd math

Dragon

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Would you welcome a pity visit?

by kenpodragon in

jw
friends

with all the talk about shunning in the religion, i was wondering if anyone remembered that the elders occasionally visit the shunned?

i call these "pity visits", in that they are basically going down to the slums to see if the lepers want some medicine to lessen the pain.. .

it seems to me that such a visit would be very insulting, not so much because of the above thought.

kenpodragon

LyinEyes,

My wife and I walked away too, when I was a elder and she was a Pioneer. We were removed for not attending, but that was about the end of their contact. Yes, we did get a few phone calls that we ignored and one elder stopped by and talked to my wife to see if were okay. Then over 5 years pass and "nothing". If they wanted to disfellowship us, we would not care. I think for the most part though, with the passing years they have forgotten about us. We moved on and so did they. We hardly ever see any of the Witnesses around town and our life is never near their circles.

Basically, I would doubt they ever make any efforts against you and your husband. You are inactive and they really don't like the legal problems that can arise if they attack inactive people.

Take Care

Dragon

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Would you welcome a pity visit?

by kenpodragon in

jw
friends

with all the talk about shunning in the religion, i was wondering if anyone remembered that the elders occasionally visit the shunned?

i call these "pity visits", in that they are basically going down to the slums to see if the lepers want some medicine to lessen the pain.. .

it seems to me that such a visit would be very insulting, not so much because of the above thought.

kenpodragon

With all the talk about shunning in the religion, I was wondering if anyone remembered that the elders occasionally visit the shunned? I call these "pity visits", in that they are basically going down to the slums to see if the lepers want some medicine to lessen the pain.

It seems to me that such a visit would be very insulting, not so much because of the above thought. Rather because it implied that they consider you to be wrong and them to be right, even though you have left and moved on with life. It is like adding insult to injury with a few additional kicks to the stomach while you are on the ground bleeding.

Personally, my wife and I have had no attempts by the elders to see us in 5 years. We walked away and were never disfellowshipped. The thing is, I want nothing to do with them and would never permit a visit. My question is though ... would you?

Just a thought

Dragon

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Any Funny Virgin Honeymoon stories?

by Perfection Seeker in

anyone have any funny virgin honeymoon stories?

none here- but my brother & his wife- both good witnesses got married- didn't get to complete the act for 6 weeks- his wife had no idea he was so big- and kept crying & was afraid.

just another "well educated" witness girl.

kenpodragon

I had a good friend who did not have sex with his "elder daughter" wife for three months after they got married. She was so wound up in guilt that she would not even let him see her naked. Finally he got her to drink some wine with dinner and she loosened up a bit and they did the deed, she cried the whole next day and would not talk to him. She then went to her mom and was all upset, to which he mom told her to do it more and enjoy. It took another week before she did and then they were in the bedroom for three days rocking it every way possible. She turned into quite the sexual addict and he missed a few meetings for awhile, since she wanted to do more.

Real example of the spring breaking loss.

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What are you making love to ???....

by thinker in

what music, that is.

i highly recommend sade's new cd, "lover's rock".

every song is a perfect accompaniment to "the horizontal dance".

kenpodragon

There is enough sound already, if you do it right! You do not need music

Edited by - kenpodragon on 15 July 2002 1:35:39

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oral sex

by lilpumpkin in

would someone who was a jw all his life (24 years) know he's not suppose to be giving/receiving oral sex?

is it possible he might not have heard about this rule?

does it not apply if the person is disfellowshipped?

kenpodragon

Depends, in some congregations it was a gray area of sort. The Watchtower never really said in the exact words .... "Do not put this in your mouth" and "keep your tongue out of there" ... so I guess people could say "I did not know for sure." I knew many married couple that did it, and frankly most of the men would have gladly got Df'ed for it, if it meant they could continue.

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Are women naturally "Bi" ?

by refiners fire in

just a question.

actually a friend of mine, alex, (who hopefully might read this and commence posting on this board) has been insisting for 20 years that women are naturally bi sexual.

i laughed at his claims.. but now, looking around here, and based on numerous group chats ive had with women on this site, there seems to be some evidence that his theory is correct.

kenpodragon

I think woman are more comfortable with natural sexuality and men feel the need to put on a show. As for woman be "bi" I would say they are willing to feel and act more then men. Although, I honestly know many woman who do not like lesbian behavior. They even fast forward through it in adult movies and think it is sick to watch. Sometimes I think it is the fantasy of men that over exaggerate the behavior.

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Sexuality in men and women

by imissthedub in

after responding to the nekkid women thread i got to thinking that i would like to hear more thoughts on this.

am i alone in thinking that lots of women have as great of interest in sex as men?

that they love it just as much or more?

kenpodragon

I would say that both sex enjoy it as much, and would honestly do it more often then they do with more people. The thing is, woman have to worry about pregnancy and men don't. Most men say they will stay if the Baby thing happens, but in reality most don't and then the fun sex days are all over for the woman. I am not saying this is the only reason woman might be the more conservative of the two, but it is a big reason.

PS : Any man that says one woman is enough for his entire life, is not being truthful with you. He will stay with one, but he will think and dream of others. Don't have one friend that has not admitted to this.

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How can fear = love ?

by kenpodragon in

jw
friends

so much of my past as a witness revolved around fear.

so many different types .... .

fear of jehovah.

kenpodragon

So much of my past as a Witness revolved around fear. So many different types ...

Fear of Jehovah
I was always afraid that I was not doing enough and that I was not acceptable to him. I felt that even with my best efforts, something about me would make me unacceptable

Family Fear
I was always afraid as a child that I would bring my mother shame in doing things that the congregation would scorn her for. I remember elders talking to her all the time about things we were doing and asking for her to improve the way things were done (My father was not a active Witness). I remember seeing the embarrassment from her when these things happened.

Congregation Fear
I was always afraid that I would have someone report me for doing something I didn't, and then I would have to waste so much time defending myself. I was also afraid that something like this would happen to my wife, or other friends I cared about.

World Fear
I was always afraid that something would tempt me and I would be brought out of favor with the organization and the way Jehovah wanted things done.

... so answer me something. With all of these fears that 100% of Witnesses have, how does that equal out to love. To me love is a positive number in the equation of life, it is the largest of plus numbers and moments. Fears are the negative numbers, so if you add so many negatives together, how do you equal that great big positive? Basically, you don't! You end up with a really large negative number that can be spread and seen for miles around by all.

So basically, to equal out the equation that is life. You can not sit in fear, and say it is love. Fear is just that "FEAR!" Love is just that "LOVE!" No scripture twisting will ever get me to thinking otherwise. All those thoughts are meant to take away your "love" and to put more control on you through "fear".

Oh how nice it is to be free of such fears, and held by so much love.

Take Care

Edited by - kenpodragon on 10 July 2002 17:14:48